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 on: Saturday08October2016 
Started by Zion - Last post by Zion

RSL president Rod White faces internal anger over payments received
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-08/anger-at-rsl-president-over-payments/7915250
AM
By Angela Lavoipierre

Updated about 5 hours ago
Rod White


Related Story: RSL announces independent investigation into payments
Related Story: RSL federal president faces calls from deputy to step aside
Related Story: Federal RSL president defends receiving tens of thousands in 'consultancy fees'


RSL federal president Rod White is facing pressure from retired senior military officials to step aside, pending a review of payments he received.
Key points:

    Rod White and three others received a share of more than $300,000 a year in "consultancy fees" from RSL Lifecare
    RSL Lifecare is a billion-dollar business that runs 45 nursing homes and assisted living facilities
    The ABC understands the charities regulator, the ACNC, is pursuing its own investigation into the payments

Mr White is one of four current and former members of the RSL NSW state council who received a share of more than $300,000 a year in "consultancy fees" from RSL LifeCare, for at least three years.

Mr White, Bob Crosthwaite, Bill Humphreys and a fourth councillor, Don Rowe — who has since stood down — were among nine directors of RSL LifeCare, who were paid for consultancy work rather than as directors.

RSL LifeCare is a billion-dollar business controlled by RSL NSW that runs 45 nursing homes and assisted living facilities.

Preliminary legal advice received by the RSL NSW branch this week states the men did not break the organisation's rules by receiving the payments.

Nevertheless, they are still facing internal anger.

RSL NSW president John Haines addressed a meeting of the district presidents on Friday.

    "They are rightly so disturbed that we have members of state council who are receiving remuneration," he said.

Mr Haines says even though the problem is not a legal one, people within the organisation are still upset.

"Some of them said they were misled ... they're now saying 'Well, they should have at least told us'."

The legal advice also states the payments received by Mr White and others most likely did not breach charities regulations.

The ABC understands the charities regulator, the ACNC, is pursuing its own investigation.

RSL NSW chief executive Glenn Kolomeitz has indicated the organisation plans to cooperate fully.

"We enjoy certain charitable benefits, therefore we should properly be scrutinised," he said.

"So I would welcome any form of enquiry by the ACNC, but I've heard nothing to that effect to date."

Despite the legal advice, the RSL's national council is also pushing ahead with a review of the payments.

The NSW state council will consider next week whether to conduct a review of its own.

In the meantime, Mr White is under pressure from his own deputy, Robert Dick, to stand aside pending the outcome of a review.

Senior members of the broader Defence community are understood to be lobbying for the same thing.

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 on: Thursday06October2016 
Started by Zion - Last post by Zion
 RSL announces independent investigation into payments      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-06/rsl-announces-independent-investigation-into-payments/7907672
The World Today
By Angela Lavoipierre

Posted about 2 hours ago

The RSL announces an independent investigation into payments made to the national president Rod White and three members of the NSW state council while they held voluntary positions.

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 on: Wednesday05October2016 
Started by Zion - Last post by Zion

This article is from the October 5 issue of The Sydney Morning Herald Digital Edition. To subscribe, visit http://smh.com.au/digitaledition.



David Wroe

National security correspondent

The national RSL president and three NSW colleagues received a share in nearly $1 million in consulting fees paid by an arm of the veterans organisation, according to documents lodged with the charities watchdog.

Fairfax Media can reveal the payments have raised concerns within the organisation, with its NSW branch seeking independent legal advice on whether they breach the RSL constitution.

Documents lodged with the Australian Charities and Not-for-Profits Commission show that over the past three years, $980,675 was paid in ‘‘ consulting fees’ ’ to up to 10 directors of RSL LifeCare, which is controlled by RSL NSW and operates 45 nursing homes and retirement villages across the state.

During this period, four of those directors were also RSL NSW state councillors. The payments were made despite their roles as councillors being voluntary.

Over those three years, current RSL national president Rod White was either state treasurer or president . Then state councillors Don Rowe, Bill Humphreys and Bob Crosthwaite were also RSL LifeCare directors when the payments were made.

All four were appointed to the RSL LifeCare board by the same state council on which they were sitting at the time.

RSL LifeCare’s financial statements reveal that consulting fees totalling
$344,215 were paid to the board’s nine directors in 2013. Some $322,687 was paid in 2014 and $313,773 in 2015.

The documents do not specify how that total was divided between directors.
No parties contacted by  Fairfax Media stated in detail what services the fees paid for, nor how totals paid were split.

RSL NSW’s constitution says ‘‘ a state councillor will automatically be deemed to have vacated office if they take a position of profit within RSL NSW other than as a paid secretary’’ .

RSL NSW chief executive Glenn Kolomeitz said he had previously sought legal advice on the issue ‘‘ after some concerns were raised with me’’ .

While he said that ‘‘ nothing in the advice caused me concern regarding that practice as far as the constitution goes’’ , he had ‘‘ now sought further independent legal advice on the validity of this practice going back some years to earlier iterations of both the RSL NSW constitution and the RSL LifeCare constitution’’ .

‘‘ In the event money was inappropriately claimed, I would be disappointed that such money was not channelled into the veterans ’ and veterans’
families care and wellbeing services provided by RSL NSW,’’ he said.

The revelations follow an announcement last week by RSL NSW that it was preparing for a forensic audit of its senior leadership’s spending amid fraud concerns, and an admission by the Queensland RSL that it had offered to pay more than $320,000 in back taxes.

While the RSL state council appoints directors to RSL LifeCare, the latter’s constitution was changed this year to give the organisation more say in who is appointed.

Two RSL NSW council members – rather than the previous four – remain on the board.

Mr White said: ‘‘ I am not in breach and have never been in breach [of the RSL constitution .]’’

Mr White said he provided ‘‘ advice and services based on my professional career in the corporate sector and my extensive career in the veteran community’’ .

‘‘ Perceived conflict of interest is what some people may see it as, but an understanding of the elements of the arrangement clarify that there is no conflict of interest,’’ he said.

‘‘ I was put on that board by the governing body of the league, and then as an individual person, I am entitled to enter into a commercial agreement.’’

He added: ‘‘ I’m very comfortable that I’ve dealt appropriately with good governance and effective management in this regard , principally because I was consistently reappointed by the RSL NSW. When you are endorsed in what you are doing by the governing body ... if you get reappointed, it’s generally because you’re doing what’s expected of you and you might even be exceeding it.’’

RSL NSW president John Haines said he had not been aware of fees being paid.
State councillor Rod Bain also said he was unaware, and that ‘‘ this has possibly not received the scrutiny it deserved in the past’’ .

Mr Humphreys referred Fairfax Media’s inquiry to RSL LifeCare. Mr Rowe and Mr Crosthwaite did not respond to inquiries.

RSL LifeCare chief executive Ron Thompson said in a statement that the consulting fees were paid to ‘‘ certain directors’ ’ for ‘‘ services other than as a director’’ .

Mr Thompson said that accounts including these payments were audited each year by external auditor Grant Thornton and that no issues had been raised.

‘I am not in breach and have never been in breach [of the RSL constitution].’

Rod White (above) RSL national president


Copyright © 2016 The Sydney Morning Herald

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 on: Thursday29September2016 
Started by Zion - Last post by Zion
Dear readers,
This topic is off topic for AVM. Our sole aim, as described on the AVM website homepage, is to destroy the mad galahs.


Over the years the mad galahs, in their frenetic madness and sick mindset, have accused us of being RSL stooges and lackeys. Nothing is farther from the truth. We, and many of our supporters, have been working for many years to expose the RSL nationally for the fraud it is and for the corruption it allows in its ranks. Our allegations have always been directed at the RSL leadership. There are many fine ordinary members who work tirelessly for their fellow members and for those outside the RSL. However, true though this is, there are and have been ordinary members who, through their laziness and stupidity, have allowed corruption to flourish in the RSL leadership.

This RSL corruption goes back at least decades, and probably generations. We have, on several occasions, called for a Royal Commission, to expose the criminality and incompetence in the RSL leadership.

We feel that, though this subject has nothing directly to do with the mad galahs, that it is of public interest. We are therefore publishing below two (2) emails with names withheld, from whistleblowers which go a long way to beginning the process of revealing the criminality and incompetence of the RSL in general and the Qld State Branch in particular.

We exposed Keith Joyce of Rockhampton several years ago as engaging in crime and fraud and bullying behaviour when he was Rockhampton Sub Branch RSL President, but the matters in Rockhampton were covered up by Joyce's criminal mates at the Qld State HQ. His name we believe must be added to any investigation which may now follow the whistleblower exposures.

AVM.

 
20 September 2016

National President and All Qld RSL Sub Branches

Dear National President and Branch Secretaries

Taxation and Centrelink Fraud and Corruption Qld Headquarters RSL

We are a group of current Brisbane members of the Qld Branch of the RSL, some of us holding executive positions and it is with great sadness and much disgust that we write to you today.

Before we address a summary of the attached documents, we would like to give those of you who may be unaware some background of the seriousness of the issues in RSL HQ Brisbane. As many of you would know over the last 5 years the RSL general membership have become aware of the lack of transparency of accounting practices in the HQ with much comment, of corruption and secret commissions being paid to Directors and senior paid employees which could not be proven at that stage because of the incredible secrecy at ANZAC House. Why should there be secrecy in the RSL if everything is legal ?

As you know the RSL Qld has an operating budget of nearly $60million per year, run and owns the RSL Art Union, and is incorporated under the repealed Religious and Charitable Institutions Act and as a consequence falls outside the jurisdiction and oversight of the Qld Office of Fair Trade (OFT) or Australian Securities & Investment Commission (ASIC).

In our view one of the most concerning members is the former CEO of RSL Qld Chris McHugh who is or was living in Townsville. McHugh was paid in the order of $300,000 pa and was provided with or had a lease paid on a new Jaguar valued at over $100,000. McHugh was forced to resign in 2014 after being found guilty of bullying a staff member and it is rumoured that his contract was paid out for 5 years—a very considerable sum.

There have been many allegations that McHugh was a standover merchant and a bully. Investigations will show that he had an informant down on the Coast and another up in Townsville ,  who were being paid secret commissions for years to report on disgruntled members and therefore allowing McHugh to use our funds to bully and take legal action against outspoken members. These grubs are in receipt of Defence pensions which we believe are topped up or otherwise increased by Centrelink and they have NEVER paid tax on their secret commissions.

All Executive Directors have an UNAUDITED RSL credit card with a limit of a minimum of $5000 per month.

The matters which we raise in the following in relation to the attached documentation also relate to McHugh who was in his position for approximately 10 years and Terry Meehan who was State President or Board Member for also about 10 years. They received hundreds of thousands of dollars over that period ABSOLUTELY TAX FREE. And don’t forget those two were the only two Directors of Mates4Mates for years?


2.
The attached documents linked at the bottom of this email, were passed to one of our group anonymously and given the detail they contain it was probably a HQ staff member. We have numbered the pages 1-36 in the top left hand corner for ease of reference. As will be seen the Directors of RSL Qld have been avoiding
paying tax on all manner of monies paid to them and benefits such as cars – and this has been the case for decades and that they are aware of the illegality of their actions and are now trying to cover up.   And the RSL has not been paying any FBT on the fleet of 20 odd cars used by the Directors.

In looking at these documents you will see the “Conclusion” at page 17 of the very thorough BDO Memo dated 23 September 2015 that ..”In the absence of other evidence it is our view that the board of directors will be considered employees rather than volunteers or contractors; and that a PAYG withholding event will arise for the monthly payments made.”..  We know that the production of acquittal invoices has never been required or provided. BDO are RSL Qld official auditors.  

You will see that the Board is in panic mode and the reason for the panic becomes obvious when the extra fraud against Defence and Centrelink is considered. All but one or two of the Directors are in receipt of a Defence pension with most having it topped up by Centrelink to the level of the aged pension as a lump sum was originally taken by most with a reduced pension. The rest would all be on Centrelink benefits of some description.

The President, Stewart Cameron gets a tax free $1600 per month, Deputy Chairman Strachan $1300 per month, Vice Chairman Cameron $1000 per month down to District Presidents at $700 per month. That gives the State President $19,200 per annum on top of his pension, he drives a near new Chrysler 300c and has an UNAUDITED credit card limit of at least $5000 per month that is another $60,000 tax free per annum. In addition the Board members as District Presidents get paid another $500 per month that is $6000 p/a TAX FREE and unaudited. This would give Stewart Cameron a minimum of $85,200 tax free per annum, a fully maintained luxury vehicle not pooled but garaged at his home exclusively, all home phone and internet charges met and all mobile costs met.

John Strachan the Deputy President is in a similar position with a Defence pension and is driving a new RSL provided Jaguar garaged at his home and also has a credit card. He is reported to have been allowed to purchase McHugh’s RSL Jaguar for $4000. Can all RSL sub branch members please line up for the same. Do the sums -Strachan has been a Board member and or Deputy President for over 10 years and our calculations including the credit card rort show him to have earned nearly $800,000 tax free on top of his pension over that time.
Ewan Cameron, Vic Reading and the others are all complicit in this fraud and are enjoying the same Tax Free fraudulent benefits.

You will see from the documentation that the directors are now considering stating that all cars are pooled in an effort to again avoid tax. Not only is this completely untrue but one Board member, Max Foot, has three RSL cars garaged at his home. One he uses and his wife and daughter use the other two. Sub Branch wives line up here for your car !!!

We have also been advised by many sources that the unaudited credit cards are used for life style and home expenses with Energex bills being paid using the card, spouses vehicles fuelled and to beat any future audit, gift cards are purchased from Myers and Coles for $500 to $600 which are then used to purchase groceries from Coles and Woolworths and alcohol from Dan Murphy’s and First Choice.

3.
Page 36 contains one of the most disturbing of all statements. The “Stew” who sent the email is of course the State President Stewart Cameron a former RAAF officer who is now accused by his wife of being a wife beater and rorter of RSL funds –our funds- to finance an affair with a woman in Canberra. Can you believe that we have come to this that a RSL State President is an accused wife beater who has already been forced to compulsory domestic violence mediation ? You members knowing all about this is very definitely in the “public interest”

Attached in the documents is a copy of Cathy Cameron’s face book page on this whole sad matter. Read it and see if you think that this lady is making it all up as Cameron states. Also attached is a letter sent to some Sub Branches by a lady who is a serving member of the ADF and a RSL member. If any of you know who she is please make sure she gets a copy of this email.

Cameron’s statements at page 36 concerning the ..“no obligation by BDO to report”.. and …”Luke also understands the issues he confirmed with John (Strachan) Ewan (Cameron) and I that he would manage his staff and that there would be no reporting”  clearly indicate a criminal
conspiracy to defraud the ATO, the Defence pensions and Centrelink as the “no reporting obviously relates to the ATO.  Luke is obviously our new CEO Luke Traini.

They all completely betray the trust of the honest former ADF members who comprise the RSL membership and have an “up them” attitude to their responsibilities as Statutory Officers of an organisation with obligations under the Qld “Art Unions and Public Amusements Act 1992” and with special status with the ATO and under the Qld Charitable Institutions Collection Act.

Cameron’s final paragraph is worth quoting… “ I have chosen my words carefully for this email. Can I ask that you do not respond, and after reading, please delete this email. Culture: I don’t trust some staff”. Well it appears that some staff member has just gotten even and done their legal duty.

These tax cheats MUST NOT be allowed to use RSL funds to pay personal back tax previously avoided as they frantically try to cover up.

There is only one Board member who has opposed this culture of fraud and greed namely Peter Ryan from Moreton District. For his trouble Peter has been so badly bullied and harassed that over the last 10 days he has been hospitalised twice with mini strokes and his wife Tracy has had to take the matter to the Fair Work Commission. The Board however refuse to acknowledge the jurisdiction of the Commission and is wasting more of our money continuing to pursue Peter. Yes you guessed it he has been issued with a show cause letter for “Conduct Unbecoming” and is due to face the Board this Monday 26 September. We must not allow this to happen to Peter and he would welcome some support and help.

With the Board positions being on something of an organised rotation basis and with the Board’s bullying use of the “conduct unbecoming” clause it is extremely difficult to get these fraudulent mongrels removed. These actions by these greedy self serving dogs are occurring at the same time that the recent major article in the Courier Mail shows that we have lost over 240 ADF or former ADF personnel as a result of PTSD in the last 15 years. If a fraction of what they are ripping off had been used for psychiatric intervention then we may have saved some of those veterans.

The Lawyers and Accountants among you will probably make even more of these documents then we laymen can.


4.

You, the membership, now need to rise up in mass so that the bullying “conduct unbecoming clause” can not be used against individuals. All these Board members should be forced to stand down immediately and be issued with “Show Cause Letters” and a Special Extraordinary meeting be conducted to pass the necessary Amendments to the Constitution to remove these rorting mongrels and repeal the appalling “Conduct Unbecoming” clause which has been used to stifle dissent and punish those trying to clean up corruption. TAKE BACK YOUR RSL you will not get another chance.

One suggestion made to our group is that Special Extraordinary Meetings be held of each District a vote of no confidence given to the existing President and new Presidents be elected which will then give us a brand new Board. This new Board can then take all the necessary action to remove Stewart Cameron and have him charged if necessary. The new Board could then conduct OPEN AND TRANSPARENT investigations of the rest of the old Board and clean up the sad sad mess that is now our RSL. The lawyers among you may have other suggested ways to deal with this matter.

National President we beseech you to step up and support any emerging group who tries to clean out our State Board and leadership. Are there RSL Constitutional ways that National can intervene ??

For the information of the Board—THE HORSE HAS BOLTED all the attached documentation is now in the hands of the ATO, Centrelink Fraud.

Finally as the RSL community please remember Cathy Cameron. She has been lied to, bashed, cheated on, lost a decades long marriage and is facing the rest of her life alone—all this within the RSL family. We hope that many RSL ladies out there will contact her and offer support and even you tough guys pick up the phone and show her that the RSL family does care. Please give her continuing care not just the odd phone call. You cannot be bullied for helping a battered wife.

yours sincerely

A very very disgusted and concerned group of RSL Members
Read the full story on this link below.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2NcYWerNeLwNlFLTW5ZTWlRRlU/view?usp=sharing




From: *****
Date: 24 September 2016 at 18:38
Subject RSL in turmoil

Military family - I had this disturbing email come my way.... It is my opinion that it is an absolute disgrace and I feel as though action should be taken.  You make your own mind up its my opinion from reading this there is a big cover up. Domestic violence and sexual favours and misappropriation of funds for a position on the board like I said make your own mind up.  This lady who wrote the letter needs to be congratulated no wonder she wants to stay anonymous - she'd be kicked out of defence.

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Subject: The Sydney Morning Herald Digital Edition: Government seeks advice on RSL audit

This article is from the September 29 issue of The Sydney Morning Herald Digital Edition. To subscribe, visit http://smh.com.au/digitaledition.
Exclusive

David Wroe

National security correspondent

Spending review Intervention option

The NSW government is looking at whether it needs to intervene in the state branch of the RSL’s financial management after the veterans ’ organisation revealed it would launch a forensic audit amid concerns of possible fraud.

Veterans Affairs Minister David Elliott told Fairfax Media on Wednesday that he is seeking legal advice on whether the government is obliged to step in.
The NSW branch of the RSL is, unlike other state branches, incorporated by an act of Parliament.

Mr Elliott’s comments followed a report by Fairfax Media that the NSW branch is preparing to launch a forensic audit of the past seven years’ spending by its senior leadership.

‘‘ I am aware of the allegations reported today regarding the financial management of the NSW RSL and have sought legal advice to determine the state’s obligations pursuant to the Returned and Services League of Australia (New South Wales Branch) Incorporation Act 1935 and associated acts,’’ he said.

Because it is incorporated, the NSW RSL is subject to laws such as the Corporations Act and the Conveyancing Act.

Glenn Kolomeitz, the branch’s chief executive who called for the forensic audit at a meeting of the state council a week ago, said he did ‘‘ not believe that intervention to that extent is warranted in NSW’’ . But he welcomed ‘‘ any dialogue with Minister Elliott concerning how RSL NSW can continually improve its governance and financial management processes including compliance with our obligations under charitable trusts’’ .

He said Mr Elliott was a supporter of the league as a veteran and RSL member himself. He said he was keen to talk to the minister about a planned ‘‘ impact investing model ... which will make better use of our financial resources in the provision of services to veterans and their families’’ .

Mr Kolomeitz separately told the ABC that the audit would look at ‘‘ things like cash withdrawals or ... inappropriate use of resources or use of credit cards inappropriately ... potentially anything that could suggest at the high end, criminality, fraud or concealing fraud [and] at the lower end, inappropriate use of funds which we should and must address as an organisation .’’

The audit would cover the volunteer members of the 13-strong council and the paid executives. It still needs the green light of the council.

Fairfax Media has spoken to RSL members who expressed dissatisfaction that the broader organisation – which is made up of about 360 sub-branches statewide that report to the NSW state council – is sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars cash that could be used for helping veterans.

Norbert Keough, a former director of RSL Veterans Centre East Sydney and former NSW member of the organisation, said financial transparency within the organisation was woeful and not enough money was getting to needy veterans.

‘‘ A forensic audit is a good start,’’ he said. ‘‘ When I was director of the RSL Veterans Centre East Sydney we had very serious shortcomings in funding from the RSL. This was very frustrating because collective sub-branches have hundreds of millions of dollars.’’

Mr Keough, who has been calling for some years for greater transparency within the NSW RSL, said he believed the RSL Act should be strengthened to give Parliament greater oversight of the organisation and improve accountability.


Copyright © 2016 The Sydney Morning Herald


 
 
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 5 
 on: Saturday30April2016 
Started by Cavalry - Last post by CD
Well, the King of Sleeze has done it again. Indicating that he would like to see harm come to those he reportedly says has done harm to him. Is this inciting physical harm? Well I ask, what harm have they done to Little Donny Boy?
Taking about things physical, didn’t Little Donny Boy get a TPI pension while he was playing cricket and bowling a medium/fast ball? How did this come about? A fast bowler on a TPI pension? I believe a DVA investigator should have a look into this arrangement.
What do you think?



From: Don Tate [warvet_69@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016 8:18 AM
To: Allen Petersen
Cc: strait8@bigpond.com
Subject: Re: Re Face Book Anzacs Betraying Anzac...
Importance: High

It wasn’t removed….
Buick is delusional. It comes with playing with his dick too often.
He thought he could vilify and defame me for years and I wasn’t going to respond?
I’ve got news for him. Everything on the AVM, Facebook, and Aussie Digger sites written about me by Buick and his maggot mates is now collated and being reviewed by Shine Lawyers.
They are very interested (as are certain journalists about his relationships with Gary Sloane, Michal Peteleczyk and Keith Tennant.
He’s done me and a number of others a great deal of harm- but he needs to be aware that some of those he’s damaged are far fitter and healthier than I am and would like to accidentally meet him some time.

 6 
 on: Thursday31December2015 
Started by Cavalry - Last post by Zion
Tate is a very jealous bastard. He has to attack anybody and anything which interferes with his desire to be THE war hero, the veteran who did more and suffered more than any other veteran. Battles like Long Tan, Coral and others he knows nothing of such as the battle of Chau Pha just have to be attacked by him, as do those who fought in them. Don't forget Tate had it tougher than anybody else during the Vietnam war and has suffered more than any veteran since. He is the sickest and most mentally ill prick to ever push his way into the Australian veteran community.

 7 
 on: Monday28December2015 
Started by Cavalry - Last post by CD
Well, here we go again. Big sick mouth little donny boy Tate has sent one of his foul missives to everybody but the people he puts the shit on. What a gutless piece of crap he is, still, he probably couldn't lay straight in his coffin when he finally dies, he should've died back in 1969. Anyway, have a read of his latest.....................................


 

From: Donald Tate [mailto:warvet_69@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2015 6:11 AM
To: Allen Petersen
Cc: Michael Von Berg; George Mansford; Neil Weekes; BOB ELWORTHY; Jim Wiltshire; Garry Heskett; Brian McKenzie; Terry Westerway; Neville Bryant; Michael Mummery; John Robert (Jack) Babbage; Kevin Bovill; Les Hankin; Terry & Margaret Dinneen; Bill Dobell; Ben Morris; Mick and Jan Dench; Andrew Ochiltree; Harry Kirkman; David Morris; Doug McGrath; Laurens Wildeboer; Arthur Ventham; Kev Lloyd-thomas; Terry & Margaret Perkins; Anthony Pahl; BILL MURRAY; Paul Kinney; Keith Poole; Brian O'neill; Ted Chitham; Bodey L. & R.; Bevin Bailey; Noel P. Muller; Barry Heffernan; David Sumner
Subject: A medal upgrade for Bob Buick and Adrian Roberts?Huh??

 

Can this be true?

Apparently, Harry Smith has a letter in the QLD RSL News (6th Edition/ 2015) stating that the MID awarded to that turkey in the ACT, Adrian Roberts will have his MID upgraded to the Medal for Gallantry in the next Honours Tribunal Hearing.

Roberts is the same dill who advised the delicate flowers in the ACT TPI Association not to read 'The War Within' lest they have a PTSD turn.

The poor dears.

Please don't tell me that Smith  Bob 'Bolter' Buick's MM is also being upgraded at the same time- that would be the final insult to every genuine infantryman who fought ij that war and didn't run for their lives when the heat was turned up.

But....knowing Harry Smith and the way the military establishment works, I fear it will be true.

What next?

A VC for Harry Smith for competent leadership while wonderful young soldiers were being slaughtered?

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE IF EITHER EVENTUATES

Hopefully the Honours Tribunal will get a bag of letters from REAL men who'll beg to differ that any of them even deserved a medal in the first place.

 

 

Don Tate

ex-4RAR; ex-2nd D&E Platoon; ex-9RAR;

ex-1MIL Hospital

 8 
 on: Sunday18October2015 
Started by Zion - Last post by Zion
The Bartkus page   http://www.austvetmatters.net/bartkus.html has been updated.

 9 
 on: Monday05October2015 
Started by Zion - Last post by CD
Paul Muscat was a simple radio operator at the Recce Flt and never ventured outside the wire. I'd say the only time he did go outside the wire was when he went on R&R. Yep, he sure is a hero.

 10 
 on: Wednesday30September2015 
Started by Zion - Last post by Zion
Bartkus is a member of a small group in Rockhampton which supports the mouth from the south and buffoon Tate.
Bartkus has worked in with the mad galahs.

This group includes Nick Quigley....VVAA President, national serviceman and a hero in his own lunchbox, Corp of Sigs in Vietnam.
Keith Joyce....former RSL President, criminal, fraud and medal cheat.
Phil Aplin..........VVAA member, regular soldier and puppy dog follower of Quigley. No brains.
Paul Muscat......served in 161 Recee Flight in Vietnam and VVMC member. Quigley loyal supporter.
Graham Jensen....national serviceman and former Secretary to Joyce in the RSL.
John Elson....town gossip and mouth.
Alan [Jack] Parr...national serviceman, self styled hero of the Battle of Coral, Bartkus supporter.
Jim Drever...ex RAAF Warrant Officer, formerly of Rockhampton, one of Joyce's right hand men, ran the two up on Anzac Days when Joyce was RSL President and skimmed money off the top, smashed a glass over the head of a patron at the Frenchville sports club, banned, wife left him, former ANZMI member until ANZMI threw him out for being an idiot.


They are all would bes if they could be.


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