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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday16December2009 »

Gentleman, Please take your seats I have some thing important to say. Now listen up and take note. Those who do not agree with me will be crucified by Dawn, and by is she a toughie..
When and it WILL happen, TATE Donnie Boy,(Mk1) gets cornered and can"t I repeat CAN'T get out of it, he will pull one of the best acts of despair you will ever witness. Now I would like to see every one get a front row seat to this show of regret, but alas we only have 500 seats in the stadium. The Battalions will have to take turns.
The Programme is. A) They made me do it because they don't like me.  B) My PDST got out of control and I didn't know what I was doing.  C) The others kept telling me how good I was doing so I didn't think to stop after my first 10 lies.  D) Some one else used my Name and wrote the novel for me.  E) I was wounded in Action defending the Battalion Colours. What the hell did you ever do Judge??  F)  Wasn't me I was on Holidays in South East Asia.  G)  They put me in a cast from head to toe. What else could I do??.
H) Your all bloody jellos because I got in first and you can't use the actions I have used. I)  I wanta go home now. I think I have finished playing soldiers.
Well?Huh?? Which one is it Donnie Boy???
PS, Merry Christmas Donnie Boy. You will need it.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday16December2009 »

Disgraceful Tate Utterings

Would like to bring everybody back to earth regarding the reason why AVM is prepared to relentlessly attack what Tate has to say. His main contention is that during the Vietnam era, the Defence Force was corrupt and that Officers were generally corrupt and cared not a fig for soldiers under their command. 

Tate’s accusations to the world are not true. He disparages every man and women of that era who were trying their best to be professional Soldiers, or Officers.

Tate is profoundly evil and dishonest.  In the ledger of life, Tate is deeply in debt.

Read what Tate has said in writing and in radio interviews. (There is much more)

Aye

Fergus


Tate’s own words.



and because I am so bloody enraged at the bastardisation of my service records at the hands of such a corrupt, incompetent military bureaucracy that I want to reveal the Australian Army for what it is- a cesspool…. where maladministration was rampant, where men’s lives could be compromised in the hunt by officers for ‘gallantry’ medals; and where officers were prepared to lie to protect their reputations and the reputation of their Corps and fellow officers

It remains to be seen what influence those corrupt forces within the ex-military community have in derailing these investigations. To date, they seem to have unlimited licence to say whatever they want. One would like to believe however, that there are those in the AFP, the military, and the government who are beyond the clutches of such forces - men of honour and true integrity.”

on my first day in the jungle, I was separated from the rest of my platoon, and took on a small Viet Cong force ON MY OWN. (That action is recorded in Lt Avery's "In the Anzac Spirit") My platoon commander didn't even know my name that day- but I tell you this, if I was an officer, that action would most certainly have gotten me a medal.

Second....as for using Ted Colmer and others as part of my book promotion, I'll say this- NO ONE coerces Ted Colmer or Barney Bigwood into ANYTHING. They are men in their own right, who stand on their own legs. And I'd rather have a Ted Colmer beside me in a blue than some craven, cowardly squib like you who's not man enough to put your real name to correspondence. Wimp!

about being an infantryman in Vietnam - one of the most unpopular wars this nation ever fought- of blatant army incompetence, and medal-grabbing by officers,

There's something dreadfully wrong with a system that encourages officers to lie, that encourages people to make false entries in historical documents.

The records of the men in this platoon were falsified, leaving no official record of the Platoon's existence.

I have also found it curious that members of the "official" D@E Platoon have also refused to enter the debate, knowing full well the true story. It is my personal appreciation of the matter that these blokes have dined out on the actions of the 2nd D@E Platoon for more than 35 years, and if the truth was revealed, they would be seen to be the bullshitting liars that they are.

I have said before that it has been my experience of the Australian Army that it is a most incompetent, insensitive, foul organization

There's something dreadfully wrong with a system that encourages officers to lie, that encourages people to make false entries in historical documents.

We'd been set quite an ambitious, and quite a dangerous task and I think it was quite in all likelihood we could have lost an officer and we could have lost a sergeant and that would have been hard for the brass to explain. However losing privates would have been no loss.

So in the case of the second D and E platoon if a man went into the Department of Veteran Affairs an claimed a pension on the basis of what happened on 29 and 30 May 1969 he was actually told to go away, you're telling stories because it doesn't exist. There is no historical record”.

Well I would like to just say that it was an administrative blunder. It was actually worse then that. There has been a cover up going on here for 39 years, and it's taken us 39 years to crack through the bureaucratic walls of the Australian War Memorial, and the Australian Defence Force.

Yeah when the Second D and E Platoon was disbanded - and why we were disbanded is anyone's guess because we killed more Viet Cong in five weeks then most platoons killed in a year, and we were highly effective.

Like it or not (and many veterans don't like it) there is clear evidence of corrupt practices, medal-posturing and grabbing, and falsification of records - and these are currently being investigated by politicians and bureaucrats. We never meant to go to those places, but that's where the journey has taken us, and in so doing, many vets are unsettled. What other skeletons are in the closet? If this could happen to one platoon, what other disgusting practices has the Australian Army been involved in? How many other legitimate vets have had pensions denied, and medals denied, because officers were either unable to carry out basic ordinance, or didn't give a shit about the men under their command

we believe it is why all records of this platoon, and of the men who fought in it, have been expunged, fudged, fiddled with, or erased.


Kerrect Fergus. Also my argument with Tate is this.

On top of what Fergus has said. Donny you were not at the Thua Tich ambush. Admit it.

We know you were in 4 RAR, 1ATF D&E Pl AND 9 RAR. We know you were wounded. You don't have to keep telling me.

My argument is you are wrong to say there was entrenched offical corruption in the highly regarded ADF at the time and you were not at the Thua Tich ambush. You can twist and turn and try to change the subject all you like. Address the lies you have told about the ADF and your presence at the Thua Tich ambush.

While you are at it apologise to the many many you have abused, defamed, libeled, threatened, lied to and held in contempt. You have done this because many people now have called your bluff, they have pointed out your lies and bullshit and they have shown you up for a very very inexperienced Soldier who does not understand and never understood Military life.

A question for you. Did you enlist with a plan already hatched to make money from your service by writing of your experiences and condemning the Military through the use of lies about your own service and lies about how efficiently and reputably the ADF operated during the Vietnam War era. Was the plan to denigrate and lie well before you enlisted.

You Donny are a pathetic criminal wannabe who stains the blood of the Dead with dishonour and greed.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday15December2009 »


Disgraceful Tate Utterings

Would like to bring everybody back to earth regarding the reason why AVM is prepared to relentlessly attack what Tate has to say. His main contention is that during the Vietnam era, the Defence Force was corrupt and that Officers were generally corrupt and cared not a fig for soldiers under their command. 

Tate’s accusations to the world are not true. He disparages every man and women of that era who were trying their best to be professional Soldiers, or Officers.

Tate is profoundly evil and dishonest.  In the ledger of life, Tate is deeply in debt.

Read what Tate has said in writing and in radio interviews. (There is much more)

Aye

Fergus


Tate’s own words.



and because I am so bloody enraged at the bastardisation of my service records at the hands of such a corrupt, incompetent military bureaucracy that I want to reveal the Australian Army for what it is- a cesspool…. where maladministration was rampant, where men’s lives could be compromised in the hunt by officers for ‘gallantry’ medals; and where officers were prepared to lie to protect their reputations and the reputation of their Corps and fellow officers

It remains to be seen what influence those corrupt forces within the ex-military community have in derailing these investigations. To date, they seem to have unlimited licence to say whatever they want. One would like to believe however, that there are those in the AFP, the military, and the government who are beyond the clutches of such forces - men of honour and true integrity.”

on my first day in the jungle, I was separated from the rest of my platoon, and took on a small Viet Cong force ON MY OWN. (That action is recorded in Lt Avery's "In the Anzac Spirit") My platoon commander didn't even know my name that day- but I tell you this, if I was an officer, that action would most certainly have gotten me a medal.

Second....as for using Ted Colmer and others as part of my book promotion, I'll say this- NO ONE coerces Ted Colmer or Barney Bigwood into ANYTHING. They are men in their own right, who stand on their own legs. And I'd rather have a Ted Colmer beside me in a blue than some craven, cowardly squib like you who's not man enough to put your real name to correspondence. Wimp!

about being an infantryman in Vietnam - one of the most unpopular wars this nation ever fought- of blatant army incompetence, and medal-grabbing by officers,

There's something dreadfully wrong with a system that encourages officers to lie, that encourages people to make false entries in historical documents.

The records of the men in this platoon were falsified, leaving no official record of the Platoon's existence.

I have also found it curious that members of the "official" D@E Platoon have also refused to enter the debate, knowing full well the true story. It is my personal appreciation of the matter that these blokes have dined out on the actions of the 2nd D@E Platoon for more than 35 years, and if the truth was revealed, they would be seen to be the bullshitting liars that they are.

I have said before that it has been my experience of the Australian Army that it is a most incompetent, insensitive, foul organization

There's something dreadfully wrong with a system that encourages officers to lie, that encourages people to make false entries in historical documents.

We'd been set quite an ambitious, and quite a dangerous task and I think it was quite in all likelihood we could have lost an officer and we could have lost a sergeant and that would have been hard for the brass to explain. However losing privates would have been no loss.

So in the case of the second D and E platoon if a man went into the Department of Veteran Affairs an claimed a pension on the basis of what happened on 29 and 30 May 1969 he was actually told to go away, you're telling stories because it doesn't exist. There is no historical record”.

Well I would like to just say that it was an administrative blunder. It was actually worse then that. There has been a cover up going on here for 39 years, and it's taken us 39 years to crack through the bureaucratic walls of the Australian War Memorial, and the Australian Defence Force.

Yeah when the Second D and E Platoon was disbanded - and why we were disbanded is anyone's guess because we killed more Viet Cong in five weeks then most platoons killed in a year, and we were highly effective.

Like it or not (and many veterans don't like it) there is clear evidence of corrupt practices, medal-posturing and grabbing, and falsification of records - and these are currently being investigated by politicians and bureaucrats. We never meant to go to those places, but that's where the journey has taken us, and in so doing, many vets are unsettled. What other skeletons are in the closet? If this could happen to one platoon, what other disgusting practices has the Australian Army been involved in? How many other legitimate vets have had pensions denied, and medals denied, because officers were either unable to carry out basic ordinance, or didn't give a shit about the men under their command

we believe it is why all records of this platoon, and of the men who fought in it, have been expunged, fudged, fiddled with, or erased.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday15December2009 »

Apart from training and firing the things, as an ex grunt, we were put through TOET's on the things before we passed out at Inf Centre.  All grunts had to pass them.  So whats little donny on about.

Memory must be slipping a bit me thinks.   Naaa, he lost it.

BGH
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday15December2009 »

Nice to see the relentless comments on Tate and his bullshit.

Let me digress ----Tate mentions in one of his missives that he had no experience on the M60 prior to Vietnam.  Was it not the case that at Battle Wing Infantry Centre, all RAINF corps members were trained in M60, M79, M16, M72, Grenade, Claymore, etc etc etc........including attending the range for live firing on all these weapons?  This is my good recollection....

And then again, was the same training and firing of Infantry Weapons, applied at JTC Canungra for the BE Course if one was called  for Active Service in SVN? 

Would appreciate corroboration of my comments......

if they are supported by RAINF and RAR members, then Tate displays further bullshit (which we know he is anyway)



Kerrect...also the SLR.Tate carries on like he was a long serving experienced Soldier or Officer. In one email he congratulates Tom Arrowsmith, a very capable, experienced and long serving RAAC Officer for his tactics and service.

Jesus the cheek of this Tate. How patronising. Tate knows nothing about Regimental life, deep Military experience, tactics, strategy, and on and on the list goes.

He is a wannabe ....that's it.

I suspect his email to Arrowsmith was framed to curry favour with Arrowsmith whom he is now denigrating because Arrowsmith will not play his silly lying bitter games.

I taught at Battle Wing JTC and also served in Field Force Units all my career.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday15December2009 »

Nice to see the relentless comments on Tate and his bullshit.

Let me digress ----Tate mentions in one of his missives that he had no experience on the M60 prior to Vietnam.  Was it not the case that at Battle Wing Infantry Centre, all RAINF corps members were trained in M60, M79, M16, M72, Grenade, Claymore, etc etc etc........including attending the range for live firing on all these weapons?  This is my good recollection....

And then again, was the same training and firing of Infantry Weapons, applied at JTC Canungra for the BE Course if one was called  for Active Service in SVN? 

Would appreciate corroboration of my comments......

if they are supported by RAINF and RAR members, then Tate displays further bullshit (which we know he is anyway)

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday15December2009 »

Riddle is part of the sorry mad galah/Tate messy saga and I can't see how the truth can be told without mentioning him where needed. Plenty of us are crook, some very crook, but we must take responsibility for our lives. Anyway it is a personal CHOICE whether to read this forum or not.

It was Tate who again raised Riddles name and not AVM. AVM has responded to Tates merciless and parasitic pursuit of Riddle to make himself Tate look good. The truth is Tate has no time for Riddle or anybody else.
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« Reply #4 on: Monday14December2009 »

Just a favour men....as Jim Riddle is in the UK and unable to answer or reply to some comments and accusations on this forum, I would sincerely ask that all discussion regarding Jim cease. The discussion regarding Don Tate is another matter all together and should not I believe involve Jim Riddle.He is an ill man this website can obviously be accessed any where in the world.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday14December2009 »

Spartakus, thank you for posting those emails from Jorgo Jorgensen about Tate, Riddle, and Angus House.
I knew Jorgo well back in our Army days, and have no reason to doubt anything he has written
The character of Don Tate becomes clearer each time another little bit is added to the overall picture, and it is not a very complimentary assessment.

Self centred, arrogant and domineering are some of Tate's more likeable qualities.

Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday14December2009 »

Tate would be the most hated Veteran in recent memory. How's that feel Donny? Tate has lied, threatened, belittled, defamed and abused many many decent venerable Veterans who have done their best to serve their country and who have never asked for fame, glory or special consideration in return. In this he has been ably supported by Corse, Wiltshire, Briggs, Petersen, Martinek, Bell, Joyce, Muller, Patterson and others. Shame on you all you lotta drongos and wannabes and charlatans.

Tate you are an absolute disgrace to the memory of the Fallen and a blotch on the record of the living. You will end up living a life of complete and utter misery and despair, held in contempt and disregard by all decent War Veterans.
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Donny Tate and the leading mad galahs Corse, Briggs, Wiltshire and Petersen and others specialise in back stabbing. When one agrees with what they say, when one helps in publishing their rubbish they treat you like a King and hero, their mate and great Veteran community worker and supporter. BUT the minute one disagrees with them and Heaven forbid questions their versions of matters they turn on you overnight and one becomes THE ENEMY. One is then subjected to abuse, defamation, lies, threats.

The email below exemplifies another case of this warped behaviour.

Ted Colmer was Tates hero, as long as Colmer was supporting Tate, as long as he was doing the work for Tate and as long as he shut his mouth and let Tate con the Veteran, political, ESO and media communities.

Now that Colmer has publicly spoken out and defrocked Tate like the naked Emperor he is, Colmer is enemy number one.

Read on-----------

Oh and Donny you didn't have a serial number as a Soldier. TV sets have serial numbers. You had a Regimental number. Also Donny it is the D&E Platoon----not the D@E Platoon. You have been told this for years. Ya don't even know how to refer to the Platoon you served in o great military historian.

Oh and we all had a good larrrrf when we read this drivel.

From: Donald Tate

To: ashley ekins ; Barney Bigwood ; Ted Colmer ; Barry Corse ; cqvsc@ ; donaldwk@; Ken Foster ; hq1atf@ ; johngraham@ ; Kevin Lloyd-Thomas ; Dennis Manski ; nealcremen@; Steve Patterson ; remloc@ ; rgibson1@ ; Jim Riddle ; Allan Roach ; rommel@ ; vvfagran@

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: Fwd: Re: STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF RICHARD BIGWOOD & EDWARD COLMER

 

To all

My name is Don Tate, ex-army. Serial No. 1201907. Formerly of 1ARU; 4RAR; 2ND D@E Platoon; 9RAR...

For more than 35 years, I have talked about, and written about my involvement in the platoon now called the 2nd D@E Platoon. In the very early days, I was called a liar by former members of the 4th Battalion, and this stayed the situation till now. I first posted my accounts of the operations of the 2nd D@E Platoon ina document titled "The Long-Distant Vietnam Veteran" which was sold to more tha 300 schools around Australia and New Zealand in the 1990's, a copy of which is retained in the AWM. In addition, I created a web site some years ago, and put the same material in front of the veteran community- and all that time, was continually ridiculed. The situation remains the same today, and even blokes like Normie Rowe continue to post notes attacking me.

My accounts of the actions of the 2nd D@E Platoon are already on the public record.

However, due to the current debate, and given the extraordinary amount of material already unearthed, I now make the following statement, to which I am also prepared to sign, on oath:

(I have already stated previously that I have suffered a number of serious head injuries which have affected my memory, so my account is based on what I wrote all those years ago)

 

In the first week or so of May, 1969, I was told that I would be staying on in Vietnam when the 4th Battalion went home. At that point, I had only been 'in country' for 4 months. Along with other reinforcements who also were short-timers, I was marched out to new quarters in 1ATF, and told that I was now part of a "second D@E Platoon". We were informed that we would be working in conjunction with APC's (which was exciting for a 19 yesar-old) and would also do some "watermanship" training on the mangroves down near Vung Tau.

 

During that time, I recall Steve Patterson bartering with the local villagers- swapping "Courage" beer that had been brought out to us by Engineers, for cooked mud crabs. We spent part of that time lobbing grenades into the water (fishing0 and at a mud island.

 

I never once saw an officer. The only officer I ever saw in realatuion to this platoon was a Major Pratt. I remeber saying to someone at a weapons inspection "Did he say his name was Major Ratt?"

 

For the next six weeks or so, the platoon was led by an English marine by the name of Jim Riddle. We were a bunch of no-hopers to begin with, but he smartened us up with a serious talking-to, and re-organised the platoon along normal infantry lines- sections, etc

 

We were told that we were under the authority of the cavalry. I know him now to be Captain Arrowsmith, who we called "the Jew", though I don't recall why.

 

While we had a number of contacts with the enemy, my own recollections are spoiled because I was involved in significant contacts with the enemy whilst in the 4th Battalion, and again, in a major bunker assault with the 9th Battalion. All I recall of the D@E time, are fragments, and I have had to rely on the accounts from other members to fill in the blanks (as I had to do with the ambush when I was wounded.) Experts have told me I have suffered severe PTSD which affects my recall, and the passing of time has not helped.

 

I wrote of the disposal of bodies; of the carting of bodies into a village; of an ambush where we were hit by RPG's; of an APC hitting a mine; and of a man's leg, torn off; and of a contact where VC were filing through long grass; of a concert starring Normie Rowe in Xuyen Moc. My section-commander, was a Kevin Lloyd-Thomas. While others have placed me at the listening post at Thua Thich, I believe I was more likely to have been with the section assisting the APC's. I simply have no recall of any of that night.

 

I do not recall any details of why or how we were disbanded, only that I was sorry to have been split up from this platoon since Riddle had created a significant fighting force.

 

It has always been curious to me, that an officer never accompanied us. It has been more curious that I have since learned that an officer (Ray Woolan MC) received a Military Cross fort an action in which only a couple of VC were kiilled (27th May) while Riddle received no kudos at all for his actions at ann ambush where substantially more were killed.

 

It has been even more curious to me that all the officers involved in the whole 2nd D@E Platoon (Brig. Pearson; Capt. Tom Arrowsmith; Major Pratt; Lt. Ray Woolan, and o0ne other- from Cavalry) have remained completely silent during this debate. Their silence reflects very poorly on every one of themn, because thety have hung 30 infantrymen out to dry. That former officers, who ordered men into battle once, now are in hiding, makes me sick.

 

I have also found it curious that members of the "official" D@E Platoon have also refused to enter the debate, knowing full well the true story. It is my personal appreciation of the matter that tyhese blokes have dined out on the actions of the 2nd D@E Platoon for more than 35 years, and if the truth was revealed, they would be seen to be the bullshitting liars that they are.

 

I know that others have already got ears in the media interested. It is my intention to do the same- and I have had a great deal of experience in this. In doing so, I will use any means at my disposal- and if that means getting researchers to access the citations for all medal recipients of the Vietnam War, and examine them to truly see whether certain men deserved them, I will do so. One man, in particular, is going to be closely scrutinised.

 

I have said before that it has been my experience of the Australian Army that it is a most incompetent, insensitive, foul organisation. It took me 28 years to prove I was shot with the 9th Battalion; it has taken 38 years for us to get close to the truth of this matter. The fact that I was astute enough to take movie film of my tour, and was able to verify my actions and units was monumentally important. The fact that I wasn't game to take my movie camera out anywhere in the general vicinity of Jim Riddle hurts. (The fcat that he refused to cooperate with army photographer Bellis, also hurts, now.) Don Tate
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READERS THIS IS A VERY LONG POST WHICH IS NEEDED TO EXPOSE DONNY TATE FOR WHAT HE IS

Donny Tate is in a terrible flurry at the moment and is trying his hardest to counter the revelations which are being published daily by former friends, supporters and those whom he served with. He is in a lather and quite a dither as some who have long said nothing while watching him lie and boast are now coming forward to expose Donny for the liar, wannabe and fraud we always knew he was. Tate and the LEADING galahs are not just mad, they are bad, vicious and in some cases criminal people. As a result of these latest exposes Tate has sent the following email around the traps, trying to shore up his tattered reputation and image. Too late Donny. You will never recover from the truth. After you read Donnys email read on to see what Riddle has said to others about Tate, Don Tate who was not at the Thua Tich ambush yet who speaks with authority in his book and emails about what happened on that night of 29/30 May 1969. In a nutshell Tate jumped all over Riddle who was living in the UK at the time and who wanted to come to Australia for reasons best known to himself. Along with Tates supporters like Corse Tate almost promised Riddle a pension and bravery Decoration when he came to Australia. Riddle is far from perfect and has a history BUT these parasites just used a fellow War Veteran for their own ends. When Riddle arrived in Australia Tate hounded him hell west and crooked and gave him a heck of a time all because Riddle refused to do as Donny wanted and anyway Riddle was too ill to beef up Tates tales of heroism, his book sales and the false image of himself [TATE] which he was trying to create right across Australia.

This is what Tate sent on 7 December 2009.

 

From: Geordie Riddle
Subject: Re: your father..Jim
To: "Donald Tate" warvet_69@yahoo.com
Received: Saturday, 12 December, 2009, 3:58 PM

 

 Hello again Don,


I have spoken to the old fart. He still has the utmost respect for yourself and tells me that he has NOT rubbished you to anyone.

I think that when you get a chance you should drop him a line. He would appreciate it. Here are his contact details….(snip) 


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think that says it all, and I have nothing more to add.

Those sad bastards, Tom Douglas and Ted Colmer, have found themselves a home in the AVM pig-pen. They will be made welcome by the maggot.

It’s the den of LIARS!

Don Tate 

From: Donald Tate

To: Allen Petersen

Sent: Sunday, 13 December 2009 6:55 AM

Subject: MORE AVM BULLSHIT...Don Tate and Jim Riddle

 

  To the stupid, the ignorant, the gullible, and the ostriches in the veteran community:

This is how the AVM works……

            It's a recognised fact that a shit-pile attracts blowflies and maggots that make their home in it. The AVM is such a thing- run by a well-known maggot with the support of significant figures within the military 'establishment- men who apparently share that maggot's fascination with children.   

            It's structure is quite revealing: links with dodgy ESO’s led by men barely capable of stringing two words together; utilising a few snarling dogs with skeletons in the closet, including a self-confessed murderer and a thief who stole from his own mates; and subscribed to by an assortment of ‘armchair generals’ (all combat troops apparently) who haven’t got the courage to put their own names to an email lest their service be scrutinised. 

            That Ted Colmer (in all his guises) is their new, star recruit tells you all you need to know about the AVM’s credibility. Hello…earth to Ted…..!


            I don’t access the site myself- others are monitoring it, and some filters back to me. But for legal reasons, I have to read some of its comment- and provide comment of my own to a law firm. I do so again, here, but will make this comment public, since it involves my relationship with a man I have a great deal of respect for- Jim Riddle.

 
Comments ‘supposedly’ made by Jim Riddle, concerning me:

            Two of the AVM contributors, Ted Colmer, and a former section-commander of mine from 10 Pl 4 RAR (Tom Douglas) have stated that Jim Riddle privately bagged me to them.   There is no way of verifying that of course. It’s the cowardly way of the AVM.
 

            Anyone can say anything they want about any other veteran (unless it’s a protected species) without proof- and there’s little the victim can do about it except jump and down a little. Mind you, some will learn the hard way that public comment- even from the sanctity of a pseudonym will prove costly.
 

            “D371” is just one about to learn that the hard way. 

            But, I digress. 

            Back to the comments made by Jim Riddle…..his supposed comments, that is, to Tom Douglas and Ted Colmer.

             First up though, here’s what Jim Riddle actually said to me, in a series of emails between 2005 and 2007. He always had kind words to say. Here are some extracts: 

·     “I can read a whole mountain of pain in your eyes, mate.  You are certainly changed. No-one should go through the sort of stuff you've suffered, and certainly not a person who was, as I recall, a bloody decent and laid back youth.  Someone owes you a huge apology. The guy I knew was a young dreamy kid with a shy smile who kept us all laughing in the worst of times.”


·     “I so well recall the most cheerful bloke in Vietnam . Mate you were a life saving diamond. I honestly felt that you were the only sane thing there.”
 

·     “I have so many recalls of you my old pal that I could and would, love to write a book about them. BUT would you feel insulted? That would not be the intention ‘cos I thought you were absolutely indispensable to any outfit I served in. As a matter of fact you were well loved by every one, wherever you went.”
 

·     “I have to admit, you were more interesting than, say, ten others, ‘cos you could, I don't know, like bring sunlight when we were slumped. NO- ONE ever stayed slumped when you were there.”
 

·     “I would love to add a few lines on the other blokes who were there, but Don, for the life of me I can only recall you, and Snow Manski, and Big Ernie in any sort of detail. What can I say about you? Well you didn't do anything wrong that time, but I will have to go into more detail about you because you were definitely a character of ‘high esteem'. My kids grew up listening about Don 'Stumbles' Tate as bed-time stories. I asked them recently what they recall about you, and they said straight away that you were the best bloke I ever talked about!” 

            So those were Jim’s private words to me. 

            And to hear that Tom Douglas and Ted Colmer have made statements to the contrary, amused me. 

            Not so much those of Colmer- because he’s just a sad, excuse for a human being. And the least space spent on him, the better.
 

            But Douglas - well, that’s a different story. Here was a man I had always respected. Until, I put the missing bolt matter into perspective many years later, and realised that any section-commander who’d make me the scout with a useless rifle made him an even stupider man than I ever was.
 

            What sort of ‘leader’ compromises the safety of his scout and his platoon to make a point? And then compounds it by making that young bloke run three laps of the Horseshoe in full battle dress in that terrible heat as additional ‘punishment’.
 

            I’ve met officers who know of that incident who say they would’ve charged me, and thrown the book at HIM. Especially given the fact that Douglas was aged about 26 at the time, had been to Borneo and Malaya with the battalion- and was so good a soldier, so experienced, that he’d risen to the dizzy heights of….well, a corporal!

 
            One rank above me! 

            Yep…good old Tommy Douglas, fearless leader of men.
 

            And I’d thought he was God. The same bloke who didn't lift a finger to assist Jim Riddle's repatriation to Australia- but who rushed to his side when a media opportunity arose when he arrived in Sydney. (I chose NOT to.)
 

            But, I digress again……..back to the gist of this matter…..and the statements by Colmer and Douglas that Riddle ridiculed me in private.
 

            When I read about the, I asked myself- what could I do about it?
 

            The answer was simple, as it always is. Go direct to the source- Jim Riddle.
 

            So I wrote his son, Tony. This was the exchange:
 

 From: Donald Tate

To:

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:28 AM

Subject: your father..Jim

G'day mate

I've got a favour to ask...


In 2005, I received many emails from your father, Jim, and always he had something nice to say about me. (I have kept them, and included a couple in my book.) You would be aware that my respect for him carried over to organising a special plaque in his honour here in Australia . 

But lately, two others who know Jim (Tom Douglas and Ted Colmer) have come out and stated that Jim rubbished me in private to them. This is very embarrassing for me if it's true. 

Now...I think very highly of your father, and I'd be very interested if you asked him straight out has he been guilty of that, and perhaps you could ask him-
 

What was his real opinion of me? 

And then let me know, eh? 

Much appreciated, and I trust all is well with him.


Don Tate

This was the reply from TonyRiddle:

Re: your father..Jim

Tuesday, 8 December, 2009 1:00 AM

From:

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"Donald Tate" warvet_69@yahoo.com 

Hi Don

Thanks for the email. My Dad has always spoken highly of you. I will ask him next time I see him. …Tony


And he followed it up with:

From: Geordie Riddle
Subject: Re: your father..Jim
To: "Donald Tate" warvet_69@yahoo.com
Received: Saturday, 12 December, 2009, 3:58 PM

Hello again Don,

I have spoken to the old fart. He still has the utmost respect for yourself and tells me that he has NOT rubbished you to anyone. I think that when you get a chance you should drop him a line. He would appreciate it. Here are his contact details….(snip) 

I think that says it all, and I have nothing more to add.

Those sad bastards, Tom Douglas and Ted Colmer, have found themselves a home in the AVM pig-pen. They will be made welcome by the maggot.


It’s the den of LIARS!

Don Tate


Now Riddle has become a very sick, confused old man who is now back in the UK. He above all wants peace and has said anything to get rid of Tate from his life. It’s typical of Tate that he would hound a very ill old man who is near the end of his life to get what he Tate wants. This slime has no regard for anybody but himself.

Read on now to follow a series of emails AVM received some time ago which tells a different story to Tates.


 

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G`day,
have been reading with interest re Tait.

I am caring for Jim Riddle and am in the final stages of getting him home...in a week.Tait and I have clashed continuasly re the handling of Jims case.One of the members that were there at Thua Tich informed me this morning that Don was NOT at the ambush...interesting..Jim Riddle confirms this
xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:04 PM

Subject: Re: YOUR FEEDBACK
 

As was explained to me by Jim Riddle and another who was there at the time Tate was located away from the main ambush and joined the main body the morning after, according to Jim he says in the book that he does not remember, I have not read it as I got to page 70 and it made me so angry that I returned it to Jim.
 

Jim is embarrassed and has spoken to Tate last year when he wanted Jim involved in the promotion.He wanted nothing to do with it however was taken to the Caloundra Library and then to the RSL by Tate.
 

He then publicly got into a blue in the reception of the RSL when they asked for Jims ID..
 

He then wrote a letter to the world criticising his care and the facilities at RSL Care where Jim is a resident.Tate spent 15 minutes there!!!

 

The whole deal makes me very bloody angry.

Xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From:xxxxxxxxxx

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:05 AM

Subject: Re:

 

As I explained...Jim and the other person told me that Don was part of the ambush group but was not at the actual ambush site, he was a distance away and never took part in the ambush action. He was withdrawn to the site of the ambush the next morning.

 

Tate  and i have clashed continually regarding the way and means to get Jim home.I sent and email around criticizing his communication to the world about Jims plight and he responded with many emails and bitter phones call about me "not understanding his plight" !!!!

 

 Xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From: xxxxxx

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:26 AM

Subject: Re: JIM RIDDLE

 

Hi ,

have just got back from a long flight delivering Jim Riddle back to his family in the UK... re your email about SR and SP, I take it that SP is Service Pension, but SR???

 

Yes he has his Service Pension and his EDA (I KNOW THAT ONE!!)...let me know about what the SR is and I`ll let you know.

regards

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

From: xxxxxxxxxxx

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:39 AM

Subject: Fw: the plaque unveiling..Jim Riddle

 

G`day,

I have enclosed an old email passed on to me by John Graham regarding "the plaque"....

 

This is correspondence between Jim who was extremely ill after suffering a minor stroke and Tate who was angry that he should of presented or dedicated the plaque,regardless of his condition.I can also send you a copy of my response for your information.

 

I spent many hours after the event talking to Jim and he indicated to me that he wanted no part in medals or presentations and that he was doing his job...no more no less.

 

He has not communicated with Jim for many months and wants him wiped from his life....however he feels in some way indebted to a number of veterans( including Tate) who assisted his application for a pension.

 

I have many more emails from that mob in WA that were passed on by an interested mate ....

regards

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 


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From: Jim Riddle jimriddle311589@yahoo.com.au 
Sent: Monday, 12 November 2007 6:56 PM
To: Donald Tate
Cc: Kevin Thomas; remloc; Richard Bigwood; Barry Corse; John Graham; Ian Morrison; Kevin Bovill; John Cassidy; Jim Duffield; Bruce Billson;
Subject: Re: the plaque unveiling
 

Don and Ted,Kevin &Barney and any others to whom  i owe an apology .   I have been progressivly deteriorating in health, necessitating visits with lifts to my Doctor and Greenslopes.   Even if you'd driven here to collect me, as you suggest, i could not have traveled without throwing-up and passing out.  I have now taken on board some migraines which last days, not hours.  I remain in bed almost all day awaiting the results of tests to tell the medical people what I'm wearing.   I have lost sight in my left eye and get crashing temperature variations and anxiety attacks..  So I'm ' truly sorry i let you down Don, and I'm prepared to pay for the plaque to be replaced with another's name on it.   


I didn't deliberately become ill ... and  until Tuesday Morning i still fully expected to repair myself, and to attend the ceremony. 


 I'd made plans and contingency plans.. including flying into the Wollongong airfield from Sydney,at great expense, so as to reduce my travel.


I'm sorry you feel I was such a failure, and I accept that I'm no longer welcome.  It may be that the anxiety of again losing to the DVA and Immigration Departments, is partly responsible for, in your own words,'' destroying the integrity of the occasion''.

 Now i can look at that plaque in shame, and it will be a constant remainder of how i let you blokes down.   I didn't think it would turn out like this.

You'll have to excuse me.     

Jim Riddle

----- Original Message ----
From: Donald Tate warvet_69@yahoo.com


To: Jim Riddle jimriddle311589@yahoo.com.au


Cc: Kevin Lloyd-Thomas henavale@bigpond.net.au; Ted Colmer remloc@optusnet.com.au; Barney Bigwood ricb@bigpond.net.au


Sent: Monday, 12 November, 2007 8:53:52 AM
Subject: the plaque unveiling

G'day Jim

 

I'd like you to know that the plaque was unveiled in your honour. Kevin and myself removed the flag. Everyone was very pleased with the way the ceremony went, and the rock and plaque look terrific. For a long time to come, that plaque with your name on it will stand in that location- and I trust that one day you and your sons might get to see it. I will forward newspaper articles and photos as thet become available.

 

That said, mate....I have to tell you (and I've cc'd the other blokes who've been battling for you and the whole D&E matter for years) I was personally disappointed you didn't make it.

 

 Notwithstanding the fact that you are sick, I think you owed it to me (and the other boys) to have made it down here for this occasion. I went to great trouble on your behalf for two reasons- first to honour you, and secondly, to use your appearance and the occasion to further your own pension matters as well as the D&E Platoon matter. To that end, I had lined up a Federal MP, local media (linked to Fairfax) and had forewarned them that the story was really all about you.

 

To pull out at such a late stage was to destroy the integrity of the occasion, and the opportunity to obtain much-needed support (the MP has been working on our behalf- and she wanted to meet the man, not the myth.)

 

In my opinion, for you to just pull out and then tell me I should put someone else's name on the plaque (this is not a criticism of Ted) suggests that you never really appreciated the significance of the occasion, or the opportunity. The plaque cost hundreds of dollars, but the effort behind the whole thing took me SEVEN YEARS!

 

Jim, I want you to know that should I have been given a few extrra day's warning, I would have driven to Brisbane mself to pick you up, and bring you down, and returned you at my expense. I think Ted and the other boys would probably have done the same.

But with such short notice, that wasn't on the cards.

 

After the efforts I've made on your behalf for two years, I feel you let me down. I am less inclined to take up the D&E fight any more. I've done my share.

 

I trust you are on the mend, and will the man you used to be, once again.

Regards, Don

 

From: xxxxxxxxx

To: warvet_69@yahoo.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:05 AM

Subject: Fw: Jim Riddle
 

Don,

Jim Riddle is a good mate of many years and I have read with concern the correspondence you sent to him regarding "the plaque". I am a veteran with 30 years service in the Infantry and have had dealings with the veteran community for many years including the honour of serving as the national president of a battalion association.

 

I was absolutely disgusted with your attitude to Jim , the complete lack of understanding to his circumstance and in particular the self sorrow and self pity you displayed  regarding your "situation".

 

Jim Riddle has had enough fired at him without you and your "me and I " crap...... you have displayed a complete lack of understanding for him and his situation . I do not normally get involved in other peoples issues but this made me so bloody angry that I had to fire this off to ask you lay off the man , leave him alone, get off his back! Jim needs mates to accept his decisions as you accept him... not to be judged and criticised . To have Jim write and explain clearly and succinctly why he was unable to attend the ceremony and then have you attack his integrity with  "you owed me" crap.

 

I think nobody disputes the effort you have put in regarding Jim`s situation, but if you give and expect salutations and recognition for what you have done ....don`t.

 

If you have an issue with me that you want to discuss , ask and I will send you my phone number and we will talk.

Xxxxxxxxxx

 

kevin jorgensen
Email =

 I live in Vietnam and don't qualify for the mailing list because of my email address. That's O.K. Its good to know you fellas are standing up to the bullies. I know something about the Riddle affair. I was on the last draft that left Reo Wing, Inf Centre Ingleburn in August 71'. So was Riddle. I know him well and was at Angus House with him last year. Tate had him believing that he was to be decorated for his heroics as a "Plt. Cmdr." in Vietnam. He (Riddle)even told me he'd like to see his sons flown out for the ocassion. He also thought he was going to get a TPI pension. He thought the rules should not apply to him because he was, after all, a "hero". All DVA had to do was ask Don Tate.I will never forget the look of shock on his face when I finally convinced him the TPI was not a pension. It was about that time his whole world started to collapse around him and although I wasn't at the house when he was assaulted, I have no doubt because of his behaviour leading  up to that day, who the instigator was.

All the Best.
Kev(Jorgo)Jorgensen.

 

From: kev jorgensen

To: admin

Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:12 PM

Subject: Re: Jim Riddle did not unveil that plaque.

 


He didn't go. He was feeling the stress of it all. So much so that when Howard Sattlers secretary rang to get him ready to be interviewed on radio a few days later, I had to lie and say he'd been admitted to hospital.

 

He was drunk under the house. His world was falling to pieces. He was beginning to understand he wasn't going to get a TPI pension, and he wasn't going to be able to sponser his sons and their families out to Australia.

 

However he was clinging to the hope that he was going to be "decorated'' because he told me he hoped his sons could come out to witness it.

 

It is clear to me now who put all these ideas in his head.

 

He was a sick man before he got into that fight.

 

I served with him in 71' and he was a sick man then. I was amazed when I ran into him at Angus House. I thought he would have died years ago.

 

We went to Vietnam together in August 71'. He was boobed at 1 ARU and again later in 4 RAR. According to him he was asked to resign once they got back to Australia. It was all to do with his alcoholism.

 

I'm not going to put the man down but I am disappointed he wasn't man enough to come clean and tell the truth about who started the fight he got into. And you can tell Mr Tate that the cause of that fight can be traced back to him. How do I know? Riddle told me the next day.

 

From: Kevin jorgensen

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:34 AM

Subject: Jim Riddle. (Not for print)

Hi Admin,

                 One Sunday night in August 1971 I emerged from a bowling club in Western Sydney. (I think it was Cabramatta)  I had been to a dance celebrating with a group of other young soldiers. We had been informed that were to be on the final draft to leave Reo Wing, Inf Centre, Ingleburn for Vietnam. I was so relieved to get on that draft. It was every soldier's ambition to get the "fruit salad" on their chest. You weren't going to get far in the Army without it.

 

                                As I stood at the Taxi rank I noticed a VW Kombi van with its side door half opened in the carpark. I recognised it as Jim Riddles. Riddle and I weren't friends, we weren't enemies either. He was just someone you avoided, especially when he'd been drinking. I was a skinny 19 year old who'd been given a hook and the responsibility of running the armoury. Riddle made my life hell at every opportunity. I dreaded having anything to do with the man. But it wasn't just me. He would attempt to undermine authority every chance he had. Usually with wisecracks and snide remarks  from the cover of the third rank.

 

                             All the shit I'd copped from him in the previous 5 months was running through my mind as I stood looking at his VW. Against my better judgement I went over to see what was going on. There he was sitting on the back seat  and I expected at any moment to get a verbal savaging from him. It didn't come. I then noticed he had his hands firmly clasped around a .22 rifle that was sitting across his lap. He wasn't as drunk as I'd seen him at times, he was just staring ahead into the night . I asked him if he was alright and was relieved when he answered yes in a civilised manner.

 

                             I knew something was very wrong but I didn't understand what. My opinion of Jim Riddle changed from that night on. I removed the label I had on him and it remained that way for the next 15 years. Jim Riddle was used a lot because of his experience. Soldiers listened to him. If it hadn't been for the alcohol abuse he would have been a Plt. Sgt. at least. He just looked so out of place with us young blokes and I think this also played on him.

 

I remember him taking over lessons from the instructors at 1 ARU, and they were happy to let him do so. Then we went out on our first patrol. He was sent down into a dry riverbed to flush out something that had caught the forward scouts eye and had moved behind an island. I was watching him very closely. He did not want to be there. I think they said it was a deer. I didn't see it. We did a couple of ambushes and a few patrols from memory and then were choppered back in to 1 ARU. I didn't see him again after that. He apparently got full and refused to leave the boozer one night and was boobed by the duty sergeant. I don't know, I wasn't there, I'd been posted.

                                In 1986 I was reading about a study that had been done on combat veterans in the States who had been diagnosed as having  PTSD, and there was Jim Riddles new label. It just jumped up and hit right between the eyes. I fully believe that any fair minded person who knew him in 71/72 regardless of their prejudices toward him would have to agree, that  with what we know now,  Jim Riddle was exhibiting the symptoms of acute PTSD. I have absolutely no doubt about that.

 

                                When he came back to Australia 30 years later, he came back into a system he didn't understand. He was going by what others were telling him. I gleaned from our conversations that he was fully expecting to be TPIed. The medal situation only came up when he had alcohol in him. You must understand that the Jim Riddle drunk is a completely different man to the Jim Riddle sober with a different set of memories and priorities. I saw him do things at Angus House and when bought to his attention the next day he would deny them. A liar? No, definitely not. He has mental blackouts, he simply could not remember. I can relate to that. I was drunk myself for 26 years. I have been completely sober and nicotine free for the last 9.  I said that I was disappointed he didn't own up to starting the blue with Grant Angus (who I don't know and have never met) I stand by that but have no intention of elaborating any further. He has been kicked enough. Its time to put it to rest.

 

                                 He came out to Australia on a whole bag of bullshit promises that could not be kept. I tried to tell him there was no way that the Minister could put aside the statute of limitations for him because of his age. It wasn't going to happen. I believe the minister did everything within his power for Jim. I was with him at DVA the day he was told to put in for EDA. They were indirectly saying to him, put in the paperwork and we'll give it to you, however the Act limits us from doing more! He couldn't accept it. He started grasping at straws. I heard him ring the Transport Dept. in NSW to see if he could renew the plant operators ticket he hadn't used since 1975! He wanted to go back to work at 69 because the Service pension and 100% disability wasn't enough for him to live on! His girlfriend was in England as with his sons and their families. What did he have in Australia? Empty FFFN promises! No wonder he was going off his brain, who wouldn't?

 

                                   Is Jim Riddle entitled to a bravery award? That's not for me to say. Should he be entitled to a TPI pension? I personally think he would have qualified for it before his 2nd tour in 71, but I don't write the cheques.

 

                                           Kev(Jorgo)Jorgensen.

 

P.S.  I am disgusted by the attacks on Bob Buick. I've never met the man but have corresponded with him on occasion. I have never lost sight of the fact that my tour in 71/72 was a walk in the park compared to the tours of some of the grunts before me. When it comes to the Vietnam Veterans I know exactly where I fit in the pecking order and I am very comfortable with that. Its a pity some of these other blokes didn't have the same respect.

 

From:kev jorgensen

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:58 PM

Subject: Sabre Force/Thua Tich.

 

Admin,

            I have a friend here in Vietnam who is an authority on the VC operations that took place in the Baria/Vung Tau area. His family ran the VC communications centre which was across the road and down about 100 metres from the Grand Hotel. He is a well known businessman in Vung Tau. Sixteen months ago I was talking to Jim Riddle about him and he became quite excited. ''He might know." he said "Know what Jim?" I replied. "Who they were." he continued. He then proceeded to tell me about the ambush at Thua Tich.

 

                           I've just had a second look at the Sabre Force video and can only assume that Riddle was in the first cutoff group. I initially thought he was with the killer group which would bring into question Lloyd-Thomases version of events. Riddle told me "When I stood up and started firing I got the shock of my life because there were hundreds of them moving across the face of the ambush at a distance. I've always wondered who they were and what they were doing there that night." I suggested that perhaps they were coming from or going too another engagement and that's why they didn't stop to repel the ambush. He said he never found out who they were.

 

                                 He said "I kept falling back down the sand dune as I was firing." I said  "What were the other blokes doing?" He replied "They were taking cover at the bottom of the sand dune. In fact, the only assistance I got was from the little vietnamese scout we had with us. He ran up the dune and took up a position behind me. He had his hands pressed into my lower back and was propping me up. Later when we got back to camp I bought an electric fan from the PX for him and his family to show my appreciation."

 

                               That's all he said about the ambush. I didn't pursue the subject and came away from the conversation with a lot more questions, than answers.

                             Kev(Jorgo)Jorgensen.

 

From: kev jorgensen

To: admin@austvetmatters.net

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:14 PM

Subject: Don Tate. Media whore?

 

Admin,

             In July last year I was staying at the VSASA Accommodation Centre at Burpengary. One of the other blokes approached me one morning and asked if I knew a bloke called Don Tate to which I replied no. "Have a look at this." he said.  He then produced the Courier Mail. I was in a hurry to go out and asked him to read it for me. He said "Last night he was on the 7.30 Report bellyaching about the government. Today, and I don't know if its a coincidence or not, there's a photo in the Courier Mail of a young Don Tate abusing a crowd of protesters back in the early 70s. Telling them they didn't know what they were talking about. I didn't see it as I was in a hurry to go out but he was struck by the hypocrisy of it. So if you have access to the Courier Mail have a look at the 9/7/08 edition.

                                            Kev(Jorgo)Jorgensen.
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