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« Reply #165 on: Saturday18May2013 »

Tate went to water when he realized that Bob Buick and a few of the men of Veteran status had turned up at one of his Fairy tail presentations, he hid behind a woman's skirts in sheer fright. But now he tries to broaden his horizons by his very limited knowledge of Military Protocol. He attack's a Veteran who earned  his pay and his right of passage. Tate should stop handling him self and get an educated manager who understands the rules of engagement. He is shooting out side the boundaries of the range. One day tater Boy is going to step just a bit to fare into the path of an oncoming law suit.   Grin
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« Reply #164 on: Friday17May2013 »

It ought to be noted that Allen Petersen is just as guilty of creating hatred, disunity and bitterness in the veteran community as his mate tate is. There have never been two who have done so much harm to the Australian veteran community by way of their publication of hatred and unprovable statements and defamation. The day will arrive when somebody will sue the arse of both for defamation, and even if they have transferred their assets to their wives this tactic will not save the inevitable payouts they would face as the Sheriff would be sent in to confiscate goods to the value of the defamation payout.

Petersen fancies himself as a mover and shaker in the veteran community all because he amateurishly operates a dodgy and unprofessional email list with few members compared to the major players in the veteran community. When one operates email lists one must take responsibility that what one publishes is true, proveable and that it is backed up by primary and secodnry sources such as official documents and statutory declarations.

Petersen does none of this because he is a chronic gossip who revels in seeing disunity in the veteran community which he pretends to stand above.
AVM

From: *************
To: AVM
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:15 PM
Subject: Tate attacks Harry Smith without substantive argument - as usual


Today I received the email, a qualified reply to a Tate rant.
 

It is directed to Allen Petersen and answers another Tate outburst that is qualified or substantiated, another classic stupid attack using the internet from a bloke with a minimalist knowledge about military matters, although he does not admit this failing.


But, we have endured these emails from this mouthy soldier who seeking national, and maybe international sympathy, because he was wounded in Vietnam. Hundreds were wounded. Scores of warriors with limbs missing have manned-up and living with their disabilities with pride, but not Tate.

 
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This is getting just plain tiresome
 

Why do you keep forwarding Tate emails without verifying the validity or accuracy of the accusations?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Any military award is "gazetted" and is valid until it is retracted and then "gazetted" as withdrawn. Smith's MC was "gazetted".  It was (and is) therefore valid and legal. It was issued under the Imperial system and effectively was approved by the Crown. Later, the Australian government awarded Smith the SG.


Upgraded? Perhaps!  Replacement?  No!

The Australian government cannot undo a decision of the Crown without the Crown's consent. The SG was also "gazetted".  It was (and is) therefore valid and legal. The Australian government then asked Smith to "hand in" the MC - eg, to stop wearing it. Smith, quite rightly and legally, said that if the Crown "gazetted" that the MC award was retracted and withdrawn, he would take it off his rack. The Crown has so far refused to retract the MC award.

The ball clearly lies in the Australian government's court to get the Crown to retract the award of the MC to Smith and "gazette" the retraction.

No amount of Tate bellyache will either validate a "breaching [of] military protocol" or change the legalities of this case.

Now - it is up to you to do for this email what you refuse to do for Tate emails - verify for yourself the accuracy of the matters raised and research the "gazette" function before you send this emails out to your D-List.

Tate, unwittingly, got one thing right:  "Surely a man of Harry Smith's stature wouldn't be so bold as to flaunt convention and make his own rules up?" Correct - Smith is not flaunting the rules, he's abiding by them.

Pity his intended accusers don't familiarise themselves with "the rules" before engaging in attempted defamation on the net.

Allen - you have set yourself up as a willing "postman".

Should you not try to pass those posts through at least an "honesty filter" on their way through?

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On 16/05/2013 11:17 AM, Allen Petersen wrote:

From: Donald Tate

To: Allen Petersen ;

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:51 AM

Subject: A question someone might ask Lt Col Harry Smith SG

 

An officer who isn't a fan of LT COL Harry Smith has advised me that Harry Smith has been spotted wearing both medals- the MC and the SG.

It begs the question- if true, why hasn't he been called to account by ANZMI or the AVM for breaching military protocol in wearing both medals?

As I understand it, and if I've been correctly informed, his MC (why did he even receive that?) was upgraded to the Star of Gallantry and therefore (according to the Honours and Awards Secretariat) he is only entitled to wear the post-nominal SG- not both.

Now, ordinary dickhead ex-Corporals like Alan Price might think it's cute to wear a medal he isn't entitled to, but he's always sought to make himself look more important than he really is. (Even managed to score a 'General Officer's Recommendation' so he reckons, but no one believes him!)

But LT COL Harry Smith?

Surely a man of Harry Smith's stature wouldn't be so bold as to flaunt convention and make his own rules up?

Surely not.

Maybe....

    - it's a genuine error

    - or is it an attempt to outdo 'Booby' Buick

    - or perhaps a sign of old age approaching?

Whatever.....is it a fact that the only reason he hasn't been highlighted on Booby Buick's ANZMI pages to date for falsely wearing the MC as well as the SG because he scratches 'Booby's' back.....?

 

Don Tate,

Vietnam veteran '68/'69;

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« Reply #163 on: Monday13May2013 »

Little Donny Boy Tater just can't keep his big yap shut.  Here he goes again, full steam ahead. Little Donny would have us all believe that he was the only one to take an 8mm camera to the funny farm so just for interests sake I did a count on the AWM site of those who took an 8mm camera to Vietnam and gave their film to the AWM. Yep, Donny was not on his own.  There are 42, yes thats right, 42 others who shot 8mm film and gave it to the AWM plus others whose film is now classed as AWM archive. So much for, how much now? $100,000. It could jump to $110,000 by next month.
Anyway, here is the "boys" latest.

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Tate


Moseley...for an ex-copper, might I say you are a dog.
The only person I called a 'c..." was Bob Buick-a gultless coward if ever I've seen one.
As for paedophiles etc...the fact is- if you associate with one, then it follows you share the sentiment.
And since quite a few are members of a website (or contribute to it) knowing full well what the association between Buick and Tennent is, then the old saying applies...if you lay down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas.
Bit you and Marshall feel free to attack me from afar for no other reason than my perspective of the military differs from yours.]
 
In Marshall's case, the less said the better. A grub of the lowest order.
In your case, Moseley, it's a case of a little man who did nothing trying his best to sound big and important.
But what are the facts about you....?
- you were just an infantryman like the rest of us, though you got ONE stripe and considered yourself a general
- you boasted that you once 'carried out a text-book section-sweep"...BE STILL MY HEART.
- you then thought you should be an officer and applied for Duntroon mid-tour...but they pissed you off quick smart (though your spin is that you missed your mates and wanted to rush back to them (SURE YOU DID)
- you finished your tour, unheralded, and unscathed (kept your head down, well and truly)
- applied for Scheyville afterwards when they were taking anybody- and got in
- graduated middle of the class, if I recall
- then, with that shiny pip on your shoulder, thought twice about going back to the war with 4RAR on its second tour at a time when they needed old hands- no way hose was Gary Moseley going back. You became a flyboy
- then, a copper....according to you, the greatest, most decorated copper of all time.....a real Sherlock!
But who gives a shit?
You're a nobody- though yes, you have 'networks' you've put together.
I coached sport your decades but never felt the need to stay in touch with all those blokes I've coached or played against. Seems a bit strange to me, blokes who enjoy other men's company that much.
So shut your stupid big mouth Moseley.
As for your recent, big-noting comments about the AFP and what they think of various matters concerning me, I've asked for an explanation from the AFP as to what you've been told, and by whom.
I've received comment about you and your role in pursuing NSW detectives, by the way. You're a hated man within NSW Police ranks, Moseley. True?
How many innocent D's were driven to despair or worse by the likes of you?
Finally, Moseley- you haven't walked in my shoes.
Be glad about that.
Nor do you know anything about me. All you know is the shit dealt out to me by the likes of Buick and co which any decent man, and any copper worth his salt, would know, is manufactured crap.
I've got more proof of my service than most men.
What value a simple Super 8mm camera, eh?
I wonder how you'd have reacted to the shit I've copped these last six years or so. What sort of man you really are. I'd suggest you'd have jumped off a cliff by now.
What quality of man associates with grubs like Buick, Tennent, and Marshall?
We'll see who's left standing once the DART process is finished.
I'll wipe that smirk off your dirty dial once and for all.
Now...PISS OFF.
 
Don Tate,
Vietnam veteran '68/'69;
ex-infantry


Now I'll let you pick this one to pieces.

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:18 PM
Subject: BUICK......the hypocrite


On the ABC's 7.30 Report dated 17th August 2000, Bob Buick said:
 
"..any time you put anything down on paper, no matter what it is, you're going to rub someone up the wrong way, and who cares?"
 
and: "There are critics no matter who you are or what you do, there's always critics, so I didn't write it as an official history - I just wrote it as the Bob Buick story."
 
Fair enough.
Now here's the rub......
 
I wrote my story down as well (The War Within) and it wasn't an official history either.
But guess who was the worst critic?  Bob Buick, of course. The f..... hypocrite!
And why?
Because I sold almost 15,000 copies of The War Within, and he sold diddly squat.
Because I got 165 speaking engagements, and he got NONE.
And because my memoir got wonderful reviews across the nation- whereas his 'memoir' was rubbished.
What's more, the gutless bastard didn't even write his book. According to Gary McKay, it was garbage- and it was only his intervention that 'got it across the line'.
Along with accepting the Military Medal for bravery; and accepting the LS&GC Medal and wearing it, this is simply more fraud by Buick.
 
And where do we find ourselves now......?
 
First, Buick cries that I hate him with a passion.
It's partly true- I despise him. I've never had any time for gutless arseholes.
My first dealings with him came about in 1999 or so when I asked his assistance with a problem I was having with my local Council. I was building a Vietnam Veterans Walk at the time. Buick (and his mate Ray Payne- another weak bastard) didn't assist. Fair enough too. I let it go.
 
But when I raised the 2nd D&E Platoon matter about 2005, Buick thought he'd set the record straight because he was an expert about everything to do with the military- and boasted that his attacks on us 'had the support of the highest levels of the government and the military'. He waxed lyrical about it.
 
I asked him to provide names of his so-called military and political supporters- he didn't.
 
(By then, he was under attack by many other veterans for various matters which I knew nothing about, or cared about. But when his attacks became more shrill, I hit back).
 
When the 2nd D&E Platoon was formally recognised by the federal government in 2008, Buick sulked like a girl and refused to accept the umpire's decision- and retreated from public view and went underground. Only now and then did he stick his ugly face up where we could see it and throw a dart or two.
 
When my memoir was published, Buick set out to destroy me and it. Gathered his supporters who didn't have brains to think for themselves, and did his best. But sales boomed. He sulked even more.
 
Now....other veterans began to send me information. Radio logs that were supposedly destroyed by the AWM in 1971 (but photocopied first); and other anecdotes......like:
 
    - Bob Buick admits that when the battle got too hot, he screamed "I must withdraw!" repeatedly over the radio- and then ran for his life leading a 'mad scramble'
    - Bob Buick left his wounded and dying mates behind when he ran
    - Harry Smith backs Bob Buick up saying that all the survivors of 11 Platoon must share the guilt of leaving mates behind
    - Bob Buick goes back the next day and murders an unarmed, wounded enemy soldier (when a hospital was about 20 minutes away)....his OC looks the other way ..??
    - Bob Buick gets smashed by a member of his platoon with a star picket when they get back to base because of his cowardice 
    - Bob Buick is nominated for a gallantry medal by officers who never witnessed any conspicuous gallantry- and one of those then gets awarded a Star of Gallantry himself, without ever firing a shot
    - Bob Buick gets bashed by a former member of the battalion when he rocks up at a RAR reunion in later years and told not to show his face at one again
    - Bob Buick applies for the LS&GC Medal, receives it, knows he hasn't earned it, mounts it, wears it- then is confronted by fellow warrant officers, and shamed into handing it back
    - Bob Buick sets up a web site to vilify fellow veterans, and is threatened with legal action
    - Bob Buick goes underground and sets up an off-shore web site where he shows his true cowardly nature- vilifying fellow veterans from behind  number of masks (ZION being just one of many)
    - Bob Buick has never met any of his targets face to face. Like the coward he really is- he stays in the shadows, surfacing only when he has a pack of mates to back him up
    - Bob Buick is now under investigation by the AFP for murder, and fraud
 
On the other hand:
    - Don Tate validates every aspect of his service vide written submissions by fellow veterans he served with (in 4RAR by Bryan Holborow; Greg Foley; Garry Winchester; and Peter Margetts (two of those are NSW detectives); in the 2nd D&E Platoon by Jim Riddle, Ted Colmer; Des Blazeley; and Robert Enright; and in 9RAR by Lt Michael Mummery; Lt Brian Osborne; John Walker; Greg Salmon; and Capt Andy Ochiltree)
    - Don Tate provides all the documents pertaining to his service to respectable men within the veteran community for verification and validation including Garry Heskett (NSW detective and former Police Officer of the Year), and John Arnold- a significant figure in the ex-military police circle
    - Don Tate is wounded in action running into battle, not away from it
    - Don Tate never murdered anyone, didn't run from any battle; never claimed a false medal; and never wrote a letter he didn't put his name to
    - Don Tate provides colour movie footage of his service showing him with 4RAR and the 9RAR in the field, and donates it to the AWM
    - Don Tate received a genuine national medal for services to the community
    - Don Tate speaks in public for five years without a gang of protectors behind him
    - Don Tate is not under investigation by any state or federal police agency for murder or fraud or any other offence
 
THE ONLY LIAR AND FRAUD HERE, IS BOB BUICK.
 
Don Tate,
Vietnam veteran '68/'69;
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« Reply #162 on: Sunday12May2013 »

AVM has stated several times that Bob Buick is not the owner of the AVM website, nor does he hold any position which enables him to direct how the website operates.

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« Reply #161 on: Monday25March2013 »

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Message = Tate is writing another book, about the "anguish" etc he's received from
you guys and others. And he's suing the army.

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« Reply #160 on: Saturday16March2013 »

Hahahahahaha.  I see Little Donny Boys site has been hacked.  Hahahaha.  Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. Grin
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« Reply #159 on: Monday11March2013 »

I went down to see my old mate Bob Coker today and he showed me what he received on Saturday.  An email from Little Donny Boy(LDB) himself, I couldn't believe it seeing LDB hates his guts. Here it is......

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Tate [mailto:mail@change.org]
Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 1:01 PM
To: bob.co@optusnet.com.au
Subject: The Australian War Memorial: Acknowledge the existence of the 2nd D&E Platoon from the Vietnam War.
 
Hi,
I've just signed the following petition "The Australian War Memorial: Acknowledge the existence of the 2nd D&E Platoon from the Vietnam War." and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
Our goal is to reach 100 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:
https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/the-australian-war-memorial-acknowledge-the-existence-of-the-2nd-d-e-platoon-from-the-vietnam-war?share_id=mtOrhxhaYr&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email
Thanks!
Don
You're receiving this message because Don Tate sent you an email through Change.org's petition sharing tool. Change.org has not stored your email address. If you believe you have received this message in error, respond directly to Don Tate at warvet_69@yahoo.com
 
Now, there you go. Very strange isn't it?  Considering the way LDB has treated Bob to verbal abuse, foul language and straight out wrongfull insinuations in the past.
Bob and I had a great laugh about the whole thing and I asked him what he was going to do.  Simple he said. I just replied that it was a load of crap and sent it around to a few mates.
I asked what did they say?
He laughed again and showed me their replies, some of which I'll post here.......

"5 will get you 10 the arsehole gets his 100 signatures."


"Christ Bob,
LOL!!!
Can we start one to have this fuckwit certified???"

"Fully agree with your comment Bob"

"Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahaha …
and you're such GOOD mates :-)."

"Hahahahaha……………I thought you were best mates J"

"Bob, you are so lucky to have Don send you an email.....you must be on his "friends" list "

 
 "got it too … it’s in my deleted file. "


"Faaarrrrk!!!!!"

"Hi Bob
This feeble-minded prick is searching for names to back him up.
The feedback has been that NO ONE is prepared to sign [that I can read].
He is giving a speech at Caloundra and Kawana Libraries on 18 April next. 
'Some' are curious as to what this location as it is not all that far from where Bob lives.  I wonder if tate is hoping that Bob will turn up to a meeting?
Tate has more front than Myer.  There are blokes in the APC mob that have avery different story to tell than Tate.
I, along with a couple of mates [one was an APC driver… or crew commander…… and involved at Thua Tich / Xuyen Moc — Tate's [who wasn't at Thua Tich] debacle!
It will be interesting to see if the AFP will raid Tate's home and seize his computers.  He has made comment about the AFP which is 'NOT NICE' - deplorable really."


"What a wanker keeps n with his bullshit"

"I've known Don Tate well since 1992 - I didn't know him in Vietnam. He has been a pain in the arse ever since. He is impossible
to hold a conversation with as he has an obsession about being recognised and regardless of how strong or determined you are
he will still have the last say. 2nd D & E Platoon did exist in my opinion but basically was D & E Platoon split into two and the
second half was sent out to do a couple of tasks under an obnoxious little pommie corporal by the name of Jim Riddle. by all
accounts he didn't do a bad job but Tate thinks he was a hero - Riddle hated authority and never appreciated anything anyone did
for him - Tate worshipped him for this
 
However, I thought this matter was put to bed. I thought the AWM had acknowledged that Sandie Pearson formed a 2nd D & E Pl
and it was now to be written in history
 
Hope this is enough, sadly I spent far too much time trying to help both Tate and Riddle but lost interest in the end"


Anyway, Bob didn't mind having his email addy shown here as he really is an easy bloke to get along with.

This was just to keep you blokes up to date.
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« Reply #158 on: Friday01March2013 »

More from the vile, filthy mouth from the south.

 
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
To: admin@austvetmatters.net
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: Poor doony

Dear AVM

More from the guttermouth snake!


From: Ern Marshall [mailto:ern.marshall@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 5:08 PM
To: Donald Tate
Cc: zunt46@gmail.com; garryheskett@bigpond.com; holbybc1@bigpond.com; shazangaza@aapt.net.au; davidsshrine@gmail.com; gfo55037@bigpond.net.au; barryparkin@bigpond.com; ricb@bigpond.net.au; richapp@bigpond.net.au; reveille2@bigpond.com; taxmaster_1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Poor doony

donny the last email from you is you down to a tee
Straight out lies.....make things up and accuse by sly innuendo
"over a number of years you have emailed me"
Straight out lie...the first time I emailed you was on the 12th of feb Through Peterson because I didn't have your addy
"run out of Mildura".....what you can't get right , just make up, tell how when and where was I run out of MIldura?Huh?
"I am aware tha there are veterans (some paedophiles among them) who congregate in Vietnam-" here you go again with sly innuendo.......
Unfortunately this is who you are and what you do, if anybody doesn't agree with you you attack with a vicious lies falsehood and innuendo hoping to browbeat them into submission.
donny I have made many many mistakes and done a few things that I am not too proud of but having said that I consider myself 10 times the man that you think you are

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Donald Tate <warvet_69@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well let's put it this way.......over a number of years you have emailed me with sly comments like the dg you are. No one invited you to do so. I have no wish to be associated with  a 'man' of your dubious reputation- such as it was when you were all but run out of Mildura.
I do not want to receive emails from you in any circumstance.
I am aware tha there are veterans (some paedophiles among them) who congregate in Vietnam- including one who had abused his own children and who was returned to Australia in handcuffs about 2004.
So......what you're up to is your business........but be careful little man....
 
Don Tate,
Vietnam veteran '68/'69;
ex-infantry
www.dontate.info
Email: donald.w.tate@facebook.com
 

From: Ern Marshall <ern.marshall@gmail.com>
To: Don Tate <warvet_69@yahoo.com>
Cc: "zunt46@gmail.com" <zunt46@gmail.com>; "garryheskett@bigpond.com" <garryheskett@bigpond.com>; "holbybc1@bigpond.com" <holbybc1@bigpond.com>; "shazangaza@aapt.net.au" <shazangaza@aapt.net.au>; "davidsshrine@gmail.com" <davidsshrine@gmail.com>; "gfo55037@bigpond.net.au" <gfo55037@bigpond.net.au>; "barryparkin@bigpond.com" <barryparkin@bigpond.com>; "ricb@bigpond.net.au" <ricb@bigpond.net.au>; "richapp@bigpond.net.au" <richapp@bigpond.net.au>; "reveille2@bigpond.com" <reveille2@bigpond.com>; "taxmaster_1@yahoo.com" <taxmaster_1@yahoo.com>; "kelliec@iinet.net.au" <kelliec@iinet.net.au>; "hankincebu@gmail.com" <hankincebu@gmail.com>; "kbovill@iinet.net.au" <kbovill@iinet.net.au>; "henavale@iinet.net.au" <henavale@iinet.net.au>; "bigjack@iinet.net.au" <bigjack@iinet.net.au>; "sthelena@bigpond.com" <sthelena@bigpond.com>; "dehaasr@optusnet.com.au" <dehaasr@optusnet.com.au>; "darryl.parrish@afp.gov.au" <darryl.parrish@afp.gov.au>
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: Poor doony

First off donny congratulations to you and you wife on the work you do for the kids,
Remember donny you  tried to discredit me and my mates over the Charity...I never mentioned it....you decided to try and  drag me and my mates down to your level
This is the offensive email below
http://www.vtvfcf.com/index.html
http://www.vtvfcf.com/friends-sponsors-links--contact-info.html
http://www.vtvfcf.com/treasurers-statement-jan-2013.html
 
perhaps some authority should ake a look at this eh, Ern?......knowing you and your mates, I  think the locals need t be locking up their kids......
 
What are you trying to suggest by sly innuendo?
This is part of a reply that I got from a bloke on the above list
"Everyone in his eyes is either a miscreant, paedophile, closet poofta, maggot or coward. This is just typical .. If he knew what has been done by so many well meaning men and women it would not make a skerick of difference. It's all about HIM"
I reckon that about sums it up donny everyone else is one of the above and only little donny is correct



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Ern Marshall
Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional minority which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end
http://www.vtvfcf.com/


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Ern Marshall
Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional minority which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end
www.vtvfcf. com



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« Reply #157 on: Thursday28February2013 »

Tate is a poor me, sad sack of a fake who is way beyond all morals, reason, decency, manners and civilised behaviour. He has no respect for the Veterans of the Vietnam war, probably no respect for any other Veterans and definitely no respect for himself.


There are no depths Tate will not stoop to in his quest for recognition for doing what the rest of Vietnam Veterans did, who never complain, never boast and never, never ever denigrate their mates personal lives and military service.


Tate really and truly needs committing. He is a very very sick fool ....nay not just mad but bad too.

Readers and subscribers, you will find an attachment at the bottom of this post which contains a very long series of emails for your perusal. The emails are far too lengthy to make a single post out of. If you have problems opening the attachment just email AVM and we will send the as is emails. The doc contains the latest spew and hate from Tate.

Before we go, let us say that without fail the great moralisers of the world, who make attacks on the personal lives and, in our case, the military service, of others, are always looking in a mirror. They attack others because they fantasise that they see in others what they hate about themselves. Those who are content and secure in life have no interest at all in attacking the personal lives of others.

YOURS
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one notices from emails getting around the net, that Tate is continuing his attacks on Buick, Harry Smith ...what a prick of the first order he is........
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« Reply #155 on: Sunday06January2013 »

I am also reliably informed that NSW and AFP consider Tate a vexacuos complainant, for the reason that if there was any substance, capable of prosecution about his claims, then action by way of investigation and subsequent prosecution would occur.

I believe that TATE some months ago, alleged that Bob Buick and others such as Tennant, were the masters behind this site and ANZMI and apart from other matters, had proof of such fact.

To sum up, if there was a scintilla of evidence that Tate could prove on complaint that anyone, be it Bob Buick, Keith Tennant or other named person were at the centre of this, then they would be receiving a visit from the 'boys in blue' armed with a search warrant....i think we are all waiting...and then again, what JP or Magistrate issue a warrant on the basis of a Tate 'fishing trip"...unlikely

The best we can all do with Tate is to continue to ridicule him....one day someone will sue the socks of him.,....but Tate has probably divested his assets, and claim PTSD as his excuse for criminal defamation and implied corruption.  I doubt that the Royal Commission will not entertain this turd.....

oh well.we will all have to wait for more incoming via Petersen from the guru TATE...the intellectual historian and famed author

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« Reply #154 on: Sunday06January2013 »

Here is a new post from the Intellectual TATE about Bob Buick MM and others

he should be ashamed for what he writes, and is really the epitome of shit feeding shit...but then again Tate knows everything, has the evidence to support his claims and has legal expertise to make a case against anyone who challenges his wisdom, knowledge and military standing and competence as a writer and researcher

I hope all those who read this particular post from Tate, take him to task.....he is a worthless dog and NOTHING, just NOTHING in the eyes of the Vietnam Veteran Community

Get back in your hole TATE..




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« Reply #153 on: Friday04January2013 »

Well, here we go again boys and girls.  Tate has once again proved he is a LIAR. Not just in ordinary every day to day bullshitting but on his own site.
Tate wrote on Monday 12 November 2012 an article titled, "WHEN THE WAR NEVER ENDS" and in that article he states, "Similarly, when various men joined in the chorus of hysteria and left derogatory posts- then had a change of heart, their apologies and attempts to remove the posts were ignored. Two men will bear witness to this- a former infantryman I served alongside (Ian Morrison, of Sydney) and Arthur Ventham (who heads up a RSL in Quinn Rocks, WA).
The point here is his statement, "I served alongside".
Well just a minor point is that Arthur Ventham never arrived in Vietnam until 13 months after Tate had left. Not only that but Arthur served in 17 Construction Sqn, an Engineer unit that had just about stuff all to do with any unit Tate served with. Now someone must be lying here and having known Arthur some years ago I believe him, not Tate.
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« Reply #152 on: Friday14December2012 »

Looks like what goes around comes around  Wink

From poor Donny - a victim once again !
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:38 PM
Subject: A Warning to Anyone with an Artificial Knee/ Hip

Everyone who has received an artificial joint will have been warned by their specalist to be aware of infection.
Most of us are fairly cavalier about that advice. Especially blokes.
Well.....here's a warning.
I have an artificial hip, an artificial knee, and seven steel pins in my right wrist.
A few weeks ago, I hurt the muscles across the hip, and when physio didn't help, saw an osteopath.
She gave me some acapunture needles in the hip.
30 hours later, Carole noticed that the same area was inflamed and swollen. It was also very painful but I hadn't bothered checking it out- I thought it was the muscles being aggravated again. (Attachment 1)
Since my specialist had warned me to get straight to a hospital if I got any sort of infection, I did just that.
I attended Wollongong Hospital at 11pm.
21 hours later, after the infection was confirmed by 4 doctors and an ultrasound, I was finally admitted into hospital and given intravenous antibiotics.
No aeration of the area was carried out; no wound culture or swab taken.
I later learned that bacteria multiplies at a rate of 1:500,000 after eight hours.
Within a week, an abscess began to form on the site. (Attachment 2)
Two weeks after first attending the Emergency Department of Wollongong Hospital, an operation was carried out to aerate the wound and determine exactly what type of infection had invaded the joint.
Four days after that, all the metal in the hip was finally removed in an emergency operation- the infection had compromised the hardware. (Attachment 3)
All that is left now is the original, vertical pin that holds the bone grafts together since 1970- severely compromised.
I am now on 24-hour antibiotics administered by a TACT team every day, via a picc-line. I'll be that way ill the end of the year- then oral tablets for the rest of my life.
Doctors are attempting to prevent the infection spreading to the knee- but osteomyelitus has already destroyed sections of the bone graft and is deep in the bone. It is the white area where the vertical pin and the screw intersect.
I will learn next February whether the bone disease needs to be cut out.
Luckily, I have a chunk of bone in the Bone Bank of RPA- but the prospect of a 17th operation is daunting.
Such has been the cost of going to war for this soldier. Not the 'shit sandwich' that others are dealing with, but after43 years, takes its toll.
But the message is clear to all- any delay in getting infection arrested can be devastating to every person with an artificial joint.
Get straight to an Emergency Department- AND STAND ON CEREMONY TILL YOU'RE DEALT WITH.
 
 
Don Tate,
Vietnam veteran '68/'69;
ex-infantry
www.dontate.info
Email: donald.w.tate@facebook.com
 
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« Reply #151 on: Tuesday11December2012 »

The mouth from the south Tate and his compatriot in silliness dumbo McKenzie from Tasmania do indeed have extremely vivid imaginations, and lie as well. What a combination of characteristics.

Despite the hopes of the mouth and the dumb bloke we can assure the world AVM is alive and very very well. They have been emailing the veteran community via postman Petersen that we at AVM are no more ho ho.

We have had nothing much to say for ages. We abide by our promise to the galahs where we stated quite clearly that if the galahs ceased their lies and stupid, miscreant behaviour, we would have nothing further to say.

Ahhhh alas though that sociopath Tate and wannabe McKenzie just cannot keep their mouths shut. They LOVE the limelight.

Small things amuse small minds.

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The AUSTRALIAN VETERAN MATTERS  Team.

http://austvetmatters.net/avmforum/index.php
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« Reply #150 on: Tuesday11December2012 »

Oh my gawd, here we go again.  Researcher extraordinaire Little Donny Tater Boy has done it again.  He is claiming that an ex-member of ANZMI has contacted him insinuating that the ex-member conducted investigations into other ANZMI members.  What a load of camel crap. Why would they do that for heavens sake?
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From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen ; hasa.kirkman@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:20 AM
Subject: who's who in ANZMI?


I received the following information today from a former member of ANZMI......
 
"...it seems from our investigations that there is a cluster of 2RAR/NZ and 4RAR/NZ veterans from 71-72 who are the king pins of the Anzmi site, located on the Gold Coast...they include a Barry Schwind (7RAR), and a Diethelm (Glenn) Dryschka (2 RAR 71). ....they are pensions officers and advocates, who have access to a number of veteran files, hence their research being reasonably detailed......."
 
I have also been advised by Hori Howard that he has never investigated Alan Price's wearing of both Vietnam medals.
 
Now...it begs the question.....who was it who awarded him the General Officer's Comendation......?
That should be interesting....
 
Bit like Bob Buick managing to score the LS&GC Medal while workinG at AHQ? And who were those officers who recommended it?
 
It's amazing how many prominent ADF chaps are now quickly divorcing themselves from the rank and file of dickheads at ANZMI and the AVM, isn't it?
 
The ship is sinking......
 
Don Tate
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« Reply #149 on: Saturday10November2012 »

From Tate's U-Tube promotion.

Don Tate served in the Vietnam War from the 23rd December 1968 till the 23rd July 1969 as an Australian Infantryman. He took a Super 8mm movie camera into the jungles with him. He, and other members of his units captured images of the Australians on infantry operations, whenever it didn't compromise security. It was done with the full knowledge of platoon commanders. Some 45 minutes of film remain, but only excerpts are shown here. Those films are now valued at over $100,000 by the Australian War Memorial to which he donated the original films. These excerpts are specifically of Pte Don Tate, and are provided here as absolute proof of his service in the war till the day he was wounded- to silence doubters.

Well now, $100,000. ??  The value keeps going up every time he puts his fingers anywhere near a keyboard.

To silence doubters. ??  Has anyone ever doubted that he didn't go to SVn and get wounded??  Has this been included to convince people that he was hard done by??  Its enough to make a real man cry in his beer.

I bet the boys at the 9RAR reunion this weekend are cheering.
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« Reply #148 on: Friday09November2012 »

Tate sent around the internet, his latest bit of crap..and of course promoting him posting his sacred films on You Tube.

this is what HE, had to say...straight  from the mouth of the fool......


Hi,

 

For 28 years, the army said there was no record of my having been posted to 9RAR.  I then produced the films I shot serving alongside them- or of me, shot by others in my Company.

 

A number of platoon members also provided written validation to the army, confirming it. Five official documents clearly stating I served in 9RAR have since been unearthed.

 

I have placed that 9RAR movie footage on youtube for the interest of veterans.
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« Reply #147 on: Thursday08November2012 »

I have it on good authority that Little Donny Boy has apologised for not being able to attend this weekends 9RAR reunion because he will be in hospital.
(I wonder what school girl smacked him over the head this time?)


Also I can just imagine the Charlie Company boys crying in their beer over Tate's non-attendance.
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« Reply #146 on: Thursday20September2012 »

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: admin@austvetmatters.net
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:37 AM
Subject: Don Tate


Just thought you may be interested in Don Tate's latest royalty payment from his book sales:


"A couple of shocks recently....the first was to receive my first royalty cheque from iUniverse for a whopping $33.28 (so much for hard work overseas).......and the second was to be told by the building society that it would cost $25 to cash an overseas cheque. I put it back in my pocket."


Copied from https://www.facebook.com/groups/australianwritersrock


Cheers
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« Reply #145 on: Thursday13September2012 »

What has Little Donny Boy been up to now.   Read on..........

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:57 PM
Subject: At last the AFP are taking action!!


Just a quick note to the maggots at the AVM web site.....
On Friday, 14th September, I am being interviewed by two AFP detectives about various matters.
To get to this point, I have had to involve the Attorney-General; the Minister for Veteran Affairs; and the Minister for Defence- as well as my local federal MP. It's taken  while, and a lot of effort.
But that's okay. I had time on my hands.
Did you really think I'd just sit back and take the crap?
I have also lodged three claims with the DLA Piper law firm.
The Police Commissioner of NSW and State Ombudsman are reviewing why local police have failed to act before now.
And most recently, the Commonwealth Ombudsman has also been brought into the action.
Thought you might like to know........and don't bother deleting, it's all been captured.
Oh, and for those interested.....the media is, once again, very interested in the story. Watch this space......
 
AUTHOR TALKS in 2012 re 'The War Within'
 
I have been out of action this year because of health, but have secured a few engagements in the coming weeks:
 
- at Karama Library (Darwin) on Friday, 21st September at 10 am #
- at Tomaree Public Library on Wednesday, 10th October at 10 am
- at Raymond Terrace on Wednesday, 10th October at 2 pm *
 
# Note: Bookings are essential in Darwin...
 
* Note: the event at Raymond Terrace will be held in the Council Chambers itself, behind the police station.
 
I will be showing my films from Vietnam at each of these events.
 
Regards
Don Tate,
Vietnam veteran '68/'69;
ex-infantry
 
www.dontate.info
Email: donald.w.tate@facebook.com
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« Reply #144 on: Sunday15January2012 »

It even had its own airstrip Brutus.
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« Reply #143 on: Sunday15January2012 »

Xuyen Moc had a number of civil action groups working with the villagers during Australia's time in the province... Had the "legend" cared to have a look at the Xuyen Moc photo's on the AWM site he would have seen that there was a military post there, an active village with a working market place..    Unless some devious soul at the AWM has faked it all just to make Donny look bad..   Wink
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« Reply #142 on: Tuesday10January2012 »

I received an email from a mate today, here is part of that message...........

I have just finished (Thank God) the tale of The Ghost Platoon by Frank Walker. He also wrote The Tiger Man of Vietnam. The story of Capt. Barry Peterson AATTV. This piece of unadulterated bullshit plays on the Thua Tich ambush by Capt Arrowsmith's 2 Troop and the so called 2nd D&E Pl. It is an obvious piece written (not very well) by the author purely for monetary gain. The interviews with L/Cpl Jim Riddel and that other hero; Pte.Don Tate are loaded with crap.
I wasn't even in country at the time of this incident and I feel sullied by this pricks assertions. There should be some way of recourse against people who throw muck like this up.
I realise that sometimes there are incidents that occur which are best left alone and do not understand what this author (to use the description bloody loosely) or the other clown hope to achieve..............
............It is crap. I was given a lend of it and can't pass it on to you, but believe me when I say it is crap.
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« Reply #141 on: Tuesday10January2012 »

Xuyen Moc 1970. Does it look abandoned to you?


http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandy1000/6031055932/sizes/z/in/photostream/

http://www.au104.org/Photo1/Images16-20/104Sigs19_3.jpg


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« Reply #140 on: Monday09January2012 »

So, Little Donny Boy reckons that Xuyen Moc was a deserted village. As Sav1 said, it was not abandoned when he was there, neither was it when I was there. Looking at the units LDB was in none of them went anywhere near Xuyen Moc when he was in those units.  Funny that.
Now, as for Ted Colmer being a member of the "emu-bobber's platoon ", I have to laugh because LDB was a member of that self same platoon, wasn't he?
Now another question must be asked. If LDB was so good why was he posted to the "emu-bobber's platoon " instead of 5, 6(that replaced 4) or 9RAR straight away. mmmmmmmmmm  food for thought, maybe they had heard of him already and his deeds of daring do.
Something else needs explanation. He states he, as tail end charlie, saved his platoon while in 4RAR but his own photo caption says he was a forward scout with him looking at the ground. Wonder what he was looking at?
In his email below dated 9 Jan with a whole heap of suspect addresses he even includes himself !!!! and another one that is doubled up twice.
As far as him being "bashed" has anyone ever given any thought as to why?  I suggest he put himself into "harms way" and brought it all upon himself because he lacks cogent thought.
Ever thought about that Donny?
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« Reply #139 on: Monday09January2012 »

Here is the latest Tate fairy tale. It was sent to us by a member. When you read this hotch potch of lies, paranoia, self recommendation and mischief just remember that this news article is really about Tate himself. It is not about anybody else. This article is his subconscious bubbling to the surface to describe himself.

We have had another good laaaaarf as usual as we read this . Yes AVM is hosted overseas. Everybody and his dog already knows this. As to who owns and operates AVM, well Donnie keep guessing and making false claims. This obsessive guessing game probably keeps you off the streets.

Once again AVM has never ever encouraged anybody to physically attack Tate in any way. He brings it on himself. He was physically attacked long before AVM was published. The goons at Independent Australia are being taken for a big ride, though this probably suits them because they sure are anti Vietnam Veteran and probably some of them were the 60s protestors.


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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS ARTICLE.
 
It is an analysis of the psychology of a section of the Australian Vietnam veteran community. 
The article is at :
 
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/australian-history/real-inglorious-bastards/
 
It includes a number of pertinent attachments, so takes a little time to download.



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War Within  by Don Tate (Author)

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From: warvet_69@yahoo.com
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Sent: 1/8/2012 4:53:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: article...concerning ratbag elements of the Australian Vietnam veteran community

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS ARTICLE.

It is an analysis of the psychology of a section of the Australian Vietnam veteran community. 

The article is at :

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/australian-history/real-inglorious-bastards/

It includes a number of pertinent attachments, so takes a little time to download.

Don Tate, Vietnam veteran '68/'69

ex-4RAR; ex-2nd D&E Platoon; ex-9RAR; ex-1Mil Hospital
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« Reply #138 on: Monday09January2012 »

As can be seen the Tater Boy is trying to worm his way into the excepted Ex Service Group by shafting his old mates and cronies again. This is the bloke who has been so willing to shaft any one or every one since his unfortunate birth.
Obverse he feels by shafting a few of his old cronies will get him kudos with the real Ex Service Group of Men and Woman. Little does he relies that back stabbing is not the way any one gets respect. First he has to come out and confess his lies to all, and then retract his statements of ill against all, last but not least, drop off the net work for ever. To claim that some one else was not wanted in a Unit is an understatement from some one like Donnie Boy. He was shuttered around more times then a coal car at a goods yard. Not every one was wounded in Vietnam who suffered from P.D.S.T. There are quite a few Men and Woman who suffered from this illness who didn't get wounded physically.  So wake up Donnie Boy, and join the real world. Stop being so dam self centred, pull you dacks up and go back home.

 
From: Donald Tate
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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:24 AM
Subject: legal action threat by the maggot, Colmer

If any person considers that they are being threatened by Colmer in any way, be it the tone of his emails (which may, in itself, be an act he's not allowed to engage in); the threat of impending legal action, or violence, even resorting to personal slander (eg. "stooge") it may well be that he is breaking the conditions under which he was placed by the Penrith magistrate. The police at Penrith would like to know if he's up to his old tricks again. As for his PTSD etc, note that he wasn't physically wounded in Vietnam, and his exploits in the emu-bobber's platoon are greatly exaggerated. He was retained in that platoon because he was a bum, and no battalion was interested in him. He came home and scored a job with the Federal Police as a (drum roll) "undercover agent" until they threw him out...something to do with tying a woman to a chair. He is an admitted drunk, a self-admitted lunatic, and boasts of his violent temperament......at various times threatening to bash Buick, myself, and others.

 
Don Tate, Vietnam veteran '68/'69
ex-4RAR; ex-2nd D&E Platoon; ex-9RAR; ex- 1Mil Hospital
 
 
 
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« Reply #137 on: Monday09January2012 »

Boy, Tate has really gone overboard this time.  I have never read so many lies.  I must admit Xyuen Moc was not abandond when I visited long after Tate was back in Australia.  One day he might get his stories straight.
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« Reply #136 on: Monday09January2012 »

I note in the article that Tate refers to that other military genius, Barry Corse who will long be remembered by one and all as the hero that saved Coral and Balmoral from being destroyed (according to Barry of course), thanks to his close friendship with the Americans....  birds of a feather I guess, Corse and Tate, both legends in their own minds..
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« Reply #135 on: Monday09January2012 »

Here is the latest Tate fairy tale. It was sent to us by a member. When you read this hotch potch of lies, paranoia, self recommendation and mischief just remember that this news article is really about Tate himself. It is not about anybody else. This article is his subconscious bubbling to the surface to describe himself.

We have had another good laaaaarf as usual as we read this . Yes AVM is hosted overseas. Everybody and his dog already knows this. As to who owns and operates AVM, well Donnie keep guessing and making false claims. This obsessive guessing game probably keeps you off the streets.

Once again AVM has never ever encouraged anybody to physically attack Tate in any way. He brings it on himself. He was physically attacked long before AVM was published. The goons at Independent Australia are being taken for a big ride, though this probably suits them because they sure are anti Vietnam Veteran and probably some of them were the 60s protestors.


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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS ARTICLE.
 
It is an analysis of the psychology of a section of the Australian Vietnam veteran community. 
The article is at :
 
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/australian-history/real-inglorious-bastards/
 
It includes a number of pertinent attachments, so takes a little time to download.

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When you add to that, cross referencing the stories on his site with all the email stories he's sent out plus what appears in The Ghost Platoon then one has to have serious doubts as to the authenticity of anything he says.
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« Reply #133 on: Friday06January2012 »

G'day Steel: 
After going through Little Donny Boys site I've come to the conclusion that there are just tooooooo many contradictions and inconsistencies in his stories to even begin to give a simple run-down.

One that does spring to mind is that Bob Buick has had nothing whatsoever to do with a "wannabe" site since before the year 2000 which is way before LDB ever heard of him.  Oh, and another one. Little Donny Boys name was removed from The Casualty List for 5 days but on his site it appears his name doesn't even get a mention.

As I said Steel, too many lies and deceptions.
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« Reply #132 on: Thursday05January2012 »

Tate, in his suck up to Fergus the Barrister in Canberra, seems to think (again wrongly) that people will go out of their way to address all of Tate's injustices.   He also alluded that a major law firm in Sydney is giving him legal advise on other matters.  And in any event, what can Fergus the Barrister do......SFA


Firstly, Tate does not understand that a Barrister will not accept a 'brief' unless instructed by a law firm or single solicitor, and it is rare for Barristers to do so in any event, and especially 'pro bono' briefs.  Tate does not understand the protocols and 'chain of command' in the legal profession, much the same as he did in his short time in the ARA.

Secondly, a major law firm (especially who deal with major corporate clients and financial institutions) will accept instructions from a client unless they have funds in trust from the client, and rarely do they do matters on a 'no win, no pay' concept.  The case Tate present them to review will take many 'billable' man hours. before the even deicide that Tate has a case, unles of course his books sales have made him wealthy and can afford $500 per hour for a senior lawyer...and then invariably, they will on brief silk or a barrister to review prospects of success etc. 

Come on Don, your playing with your dick again.....and yes Donny Boy, on the other posts about YOU, (my God you are always the topic of discussion) you deride me, by asserting i was only an office boy officer.   Well, to set you straight, you wank .... I was 2Lt in one of our illustrious Battalions in SVN, did my tour in a Rifle Company, returned and took promotion and served in Command Units in various functional roles, whilst studying law at UNSW, later retiring as Lt Col, and now doing consulting work for various entities in asia in counter intelligence matters.....and this would be a good book too  !!  Had you been in my Platoon, you would have been constantly before the CO and then down at AFV Pro Unit doing hard time...you disrecpectful, ignorant, and disgraceful individual....

If your ever up Bondi way, drop into the RSL over at North Bondi and say hello...and I will buy you a beer

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« Reply #131 on: Monday02January2012 »

Steel:  I would suggest that his web bloke is his son-in-law, Adam Rainford.

BTW, I'm still trying to get Bob Coker to have his say here about the 'blow up' with Tate over his site The Casualty List.
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« Reply #130 on: Monday02January2012 »

CD, while you're reading the stuff on his website, look for the contradictions and inconsistencies in his stories. Note how at times the people that helped him are made to be his best mates  but when they didn't say what he wanted to say they then became his enemies. You'll need a lot of paper and time to list them all.

Note also on his forum feedback page that every post (the sex ones and also the real people one's) are all posted by "anonymous", yet he berates us for not using our real names.  He claims his 'Web Manager" (and that was back in 2008) doesn't know how to get rid of all the crap from the forum feedback page. (Typical, blame some one else). Personally I'd sack the web manager if he doesn't know how to do his job.

You might like to listen to this interview that was aired on WA's  6PR

http://www.6pr.com.au/the-war-within/20111025-1mhhi.html

and it now appears that "The War Within" is now a talking book.

http://www.guidedogswa.com.au/resources/Press-Release.Oct.The-War-Within.pdf

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« Reply #129 on: Monday02January2012 »

Talk about a Head Banging on the Wall episode of total grovelling crap. How could any stable minded person read that load of rubbish and come away with a balanced view?  No wonder those out side the community of the Vietnam Veterans at times wonder if all Vietnam Veterans have been effected mentally. This Drongo needs help, and quickly.
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« Reply #128 on: Sunday01January2012 »

Sav1: Must have a look at his site and see just how many lies he has published.
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« Reply #127 on: Saturday31December2011 »

Further to my ramblings, this mentally challenged idiot spends an enormous amount of energy having a go at fellow veterans but forgets about cleaning up his website. His forum feedback makes for interesting reading it is full of porn, sex etc. Hey, then again he does have a weird history in this area.
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« Reply #126 on: Friday30December2011 »

Now here is me thinking, great, Tate has finally faded into the sunset.  Bloody hell no such luck.  This menatally challenged idiot just does not get it.  Most veterans know what he is about, but no one is listening.  Except possibly his poor wife.  May 2012 be without Tate.
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« Reply #125 on: Thursday29December2011 »

It has been quiet here for a while now so I thought I’d do a little digging.  It seems that Little Donny
Boy is still after someone to carry on his fight for the “world owes me a living” , “I am the hero of
2nd D&E” and “I have been villified by those nasty men at AVM”.

So, with that in mind he wrote to ex-Maj James Ferguson Thomson, RFD, MA., a legal eagle
Veteran of HQ 1ATF 67-68.
Now when I say he wrote to ‘Fergus’ Thomson maybe that is a
misnomer, I should really call the correspondence an essay because it ran to approx 3,425 words
and he sent it by email !. Little Donny Boy addressed ‘Fergus’ as Dear Sir.


Barrister Fergus Thomson replied on the 29th July 2011:
Dear Mr Tate
I have read your lengthy email. You have encountered many problems.
Regrettably, I am just flat out already doing pro bono work for veterans and disadvantaged
people.
I simply cannot find more time in the day to assist you.
I wish you well.
Fergus
Fergus Thomson RFD MA
Barrister
Supreme Court Case Evaluator
General Counsel Vietnam Veterans Federation
Silk Chambers
Canberra
0432460411

Now, a ‘normal’ person would have taken that answer as a “sorry mate but I just can’t find
time to fit you in but I wish you all the best” answer and let it go at that, but NO, Little
Donny Boy just had to get the last word in, didn’t he?



Don Tate replied on the same day, 29th July 2011: Beginning....
Dear Fergus.......followed by a shorter essay this time of only 656 words.


Mr Fergus Thomson replied:
Good luck. I will read your book shortly.


Yes, that was it. But no, there’s more.......he really wants the very last word.

On the 9th August, 2011, Don Tate wrote: Beginning........
Dear Mr Thomson
I trust you will enjoy reading 'The War Within.'...followed by another 450 words.

So we have ‘Fergus’ adressed as, Dear Sir; Dear Fergus and Dear Mr Thomson, plus
approx 4,530 words  that Mr James Ferguson Thomson along with thousands of Veterans  have taken
no notice of.  If you care to take the time you can read Little Donny Boys words here.

http://www.dontate.info/index.php?view=article&catid=34%3Aarticles&id=109%3Afergu
s-fairfax-fergus-thomsonvietnam&option=com_content&Itemid=50
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« Reply #124 on: Wednesday19October2011 »


Hi Fellas,
I think just about everyone has received a copy of the latest Tater Prattle. But still; Donnie Boy Tater is a poor excuse for an ex-soldier.  He has trouble with the fact he never ever and will never ever complete a full tourer of a combat area. No one will recognise his brilliance or his ability to twist the truth into a story of his own abilities.
TATE was never at  Thua Tich. He has written about that action as if he was the War Correspondent on the spot, but this pathetic piece of Crap has never once seen any form of action. Even to the point of when he was shot in the back he was still unaware that there were Baddies in the Bush. Now this Pathetic Pants Dropper is trying to deflect the attention away from his own criminal behaviour towards someone else of Good Standing and a proud Military Career. TATER failed as a Spud Peeler in Rookies, and he Failed as a Dixie Basher in Ingleburn.  He is a man of very limited abilities and a very vivid imagination.
The Australian War Memorial employs people of extensive abilities who are able to sort through the records and compile the facts as they were. The History Stands and no amount of hysterical screaming from the likes of Tate will ever change the fact he was NEVER EVER at Thua Tich during that fire fight. It is a TOTAL FIGMENT of his overzealous imagination and desire to be seen as a person of boundless knowledge. A problem child of the third quarter.
The End!!
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« Reply #123 on: Wednesday19October2011 »

Boy Tate is a joke.  If it wasn't for the courage of Tom Arrowsmith and his Troop of APC's Tate might not be alive today.  To make matters worse he was not even at Thua Tich.
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« Reply #122 on: Tuesday18October2011 »

What a pathetic turd Tate is...if I was Woolan, I would ignore this prick.....he is just a gutless shit stirrer, who has the morals of a turd and the brain of a simpleton

Tate said it in the email himself a ' dumb private'  and  has not progressed much in 40 years with all his knowledge..

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« Reply #121 on: Tuesday18October2011 »

G'day all.  I just found this in my in-box.  It seems that young Taty boy is up to his vitriolic best again...............and it also seems he still believes he served at 1 Mil Hosp.

From: Donald Tate <warvet_69@yahoo.com>

Subject: Searching for Ray (Mick) Woolan MC

To: "Bernie" <hill55@vtown.com.au>, "richard appleby" <richapp@bigpond.net.au>, "des blazely" <scottblazely@remax.com.au>, "Robert Secrett" <robertsecrett@bigpond.com>, eckap@hotmail.com, "Allen Petersen" <petersaj@bigpond.net.au>

Cc: sydneymcleod@bigpond.com, jjgoold@tpg.com.au, laurens@wildeboer.id.au, "Ben Morris" <taxmaster_1@yahoo.com>, "Ted McEvoy" <tedmac@iinet.net.au>, "Kevin Bovill" <kbovill@iinet.net.au>, bighasa@bigpond.com, bigjack@iinet.net.au, "Neville Bryant" <neville.bryant@gmail.com>

Received: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 6:55 PM


G'day Ray............or is it Mick?

It doesn't matter........Ray will do.

Anyway mate, it's time we had a conversation of sorts.

It's long overdue, in fact.

But it's important we do now- because various enquiries are underway into certain matters, and your name is bobbing up all over the place. Ray Woolan this.....Ray Woolan that.....

By the way, how's that MC look? Keeping it nice and shiny? Impressing the local golfers? Winning a heart or two?

Let me introduce myself, Ray.

My name is Don Tate. I'm sure you've heard of me. I've been chasing down a few matters of historical interest that connect the two of us.

(But before I get into it, let me say I read a posting on the AVM web site some time ago about you and me. You know the web site - the AVM, set up by corrupt ex-officers, run by the paedophile from Rockhampton, and financed by the local rock-spiders. It was sent to me by a friend.) Apparently, you declare that I've spoken to you a number of times in the past re the 2nd D&E Platoon matter.

Now, let's clear the air from the get-go- I've never written to you before, and never spoken to you. Isn't that right, Ray?

Just another AVM bullshit story isn't it?

Perhaps you might clarify that little matter first, Ray? (That shouldn't be too hard, surely.)

Not that it matters all that much. There are greater concerns at hand than that.

But back to business.....

As I said, we've never met, but we do have something in common- we both served in D&E Platoons in 1969.

According to the records, you succeeded Lt R. Sutton in March '69, and preceded Lts W. Henderson in August '69 (who was, in turn, followed by Lt P. Cosgrove in December '69, and then Lt. John Burrows) as platoon commanders of the generic D&E Platoon that operated out of HQ Company 1ATF.

That's what the history books say.

Which means........(drum roll here)........that you were the platoon commander of the "D&E Platoon" which was operating in the Duc Thanh District on Operation Mailed Fist in May/June 1969. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Meanwhile, I was in the other D&E Platoon at the very same time- the somewhat infamous "2nd D&E Platoon". But only for about six weeks, whereas, according to the official Roll Book, you did eight months in it.

You mightn't have realised this at the time, Ray- but apparently you were also my de facto platoon commander.

That's right. You were the platoon commander of the only D&E Platoon on ORBAT.

I say 'de facto' because I never met you- and you never had any dealings with our platoon. But strangely, according to the Roll Books of HQ Company 1ATF, you're the man. You were in charge. It's there in black and white. And you can't argue with the historical records.

Ask Ashley Ekins of the Australian War Memorial. He's the go-to man on our Vietnam War history- the gatekeeper of our heritage. And he won't have a bar of anyone trying to alter what's there in black and white................

THERE'S NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. You were our official platoon commander.

Now Ray, I don't want to alarm you, and I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but that places you in something of an invidious position. You see, while you were our erstwhile 'platoon commander', certain, ahem,...... indiscretions' were carried out at Thua Tich on May 30th 1969 under your 'leadership'!

Half a dozen bodies dragged into a bomb crater and blown up with C4 and claymore mines.

A few others strapped to the backs of APC's- and dragged headless into Xuyen Moc.

A few civilians fired at for fun on the way in. A body or two. A dead girl, if I recall correctly. Pity about that, hey?

They've been regarded by some as 'atrocities'. Your mate, Ted Colmer had no qualms about calling it that, and he should know, being an ex-federal copper and all.

Not sure about that term 'atrocity' myself- but they were certainly atrocious acts.

But here's where it gets tricky for you, Ray. Apparently, you were responsible for them.

That's right. As the officially designated platoon commander of the "D&E Platoon in May 1969- you were the platoon commander of the day. It says so in the Roll Book- "Lt R. Woolan."

I guess there's no way of breaking this softly Ray- the buck stops with you.

And I'm not sure if you're up with current events or not, but those matters are now in the hands of the Minister for Defence, the Minister for Veteran Afairs, and the DLA Piper team reviewing matters of abuse within the ADF.

AND THERE YOU ARE, RAY- DEAD CENTRE IN THE THICK OF THINGS! "Lt Ray Woolan MC"- right in the firing line.

You can expect to hear more about those matters in due course.

(There's a trooper with a certain picture of bodies trapped to an APC he's kept quiet all these years. The ADF and the AWM might have thought they'd 'sanitised' all the records, all those nasty photographs by Bellis and Gibbons, but damned if some trooper didn't sneak a pic, and kept it all these years. Kept it quiet too, just for insurance. What's the chances of that?)

So Ray- as I said, you're in a pickle.

Perhaps you can clarify your position for the veteran community.

But it's going to have to be done in public. Were you the platoon commander at Thua Tich on May 29th and 30th, or not?

Involved in those contentions, or not?

The Australian War Memorial needs to be informed of precisely where you were on that day, and where you stand in relation to these matters. There's a book due out soon by good old Ashley Ekins of the AWM....

AND IT'D BE A PITY IF HE GOT THOSE DETAILS WRONG.

Either- you were the platoon commander of the only D&E Platoon that existed, as Ekins asserts (which included 40 regular soldiers from the 4th Battalion who were 'supernumeraries', making your platoon about 80 strong in total) or you weren't.

If you led an 80-strong platoon, it must have been fun. Surely they'd have paid you double!

But Ray, the administrative dilemma doesn't stop there.

It gets worse for you, in fact.

You see- then there's the curious matter of your Military Cross.

Now.....as we all know, Ray, you won the MC for gallantry as a platoon commander of the "D&E Platoon."

Your citation reads very well. You took on a 50+ group of enemy in the rubber with another group trying to encircle you. Isn't that right?

But a bloke who served with you later- yes, the one and only Ted Colmer (who counts among his friends other members of your platoon) made a startling comment to me in an email of the 20th May 2007. He said (sic):

"Woolan's citation for the MC is a fabrication extending further than just exaggeration. There were 20 VC/NVA (in green uniforms) engaged at 120m with 1VC KIA and 6 blood trails. (But) The citation for the MC states 50 enemy engaged with an additional third group of unknown size proceeding to encircle the ambush?? What a total fabrication."

Apparently some of your former platoon members have loose lips.

Now this is all curious, and perhaps it will be reviewed as part of the DLA Piper terms of reference. I'm not sure.

But it's going to come into some equations, sure as eggs. I'll make sure it does.

Why- because you stayed mute all these years, and didn't have the guts to clarify a few of the issues surrounding our fight to validate that platoon.

You'd won a medal for 'gallantry'- but didn't have the courage to enter this fray, all this time.

(Something of a contradiction there, Ray. Isn't there?)

But- now, you're in the cross-hairs!

But what makes it even more interesting is that it would appear that certain photographs that were taken at Thua Tich in May '69 by the official photographers, are now mysteriously dated June '69. I refer to those published in the "Impressions" booklet put out by the Australian War Memorial- that bastion of military integrity. (Yeah, right!)

It would appear that they were used to enhance your citation somewhat. And that would be military fraud of some sort Ray, wouldn't it?

Do you recall that meeting of the 'high brass' at Xuyen Moc, Ray? It was early July, after they'd disbanded the 2nd D&E Platoon and dispersed most of us into other battalions, and after Arrowsmith's Troop had been sent packing as well, and Arrowsmith himself had been kicked in the arse and demoted.

They were all there at that meeting,.....General Daly, Brigadier Pearson, Major Ron Rooks, and the other hangers-on.

And you, as well, bright-eyed and fresh from the rubber about 30 kms away. There are pics of the big meeting.

You appeared out of the blue when all the hoo-ha from Thua Tich had died down. Remember?

Perhaps you can tell me- was that where the decision was made to rob Cpl James Riddle of the MM he deserved for his efforts at Thua Tich while you and your platoon were up in the de Courtenay rubber?

Did you receive his gallanty medal in error, or was it by design of the 'high brass' to disguise the events of May 30th?

Is that how it went down?

After all, the "D&E Platoon" had been mighty successful- and there were a couple of gallantry medals up for grab, weren't there?

If I recall, the Armoured Corps were lagging behind on the medal count at that time, and the quota system allowed for a few decorations to be distributed if all went well. And Brigadier did have a soft spot for the Armour, didn't he? It's there in his records.

And you were Johnny-on-the-spot. Sorry...Ray on the spot. As the only officer around the place who hadn't dirtied his hands- you got the gong!

After all, there was no point wasting something prestigious on some no-account English corporal who was prone to sitting dumb officers on their arse while there was a good ol' boy in the officer club hanging around who wouldn't mind it. Eh? A nice shiny gong to boost the career.

Is that why you told your platoon members at a later date you had "no idea" what you'd done to deserve it?

You know the rest of the story, of course..............the "2nd D&E Platoon" (yep, the one you "officially" led, Ray..the one I was in along with Riddle and Bigwood and Blazely and Manski and Roach and Patterson and well......another 35 or so) was quickly disbanded. Out of sight, out of mind.

Except for a couple who were shoved into your "other" platoon to keep your numbers up.

So here's where we're at, Ray........

I don't know if you know this or not- but Major George Pratt has stated (on film) that those who comprised the "D&E Platoons" were men of inferior quality to those in battalions. He regarded them as "best suited for kitchen duties". A bit harsh I think, but what would I know? He was the officer; I was just a dumb private.

(Actually, apparently General Cosgrove made a similar comment in his memoir...called the platoon one that "normally provides defence for the HQ and other general duties of a housekeeping nature".

At least that's what I'm told. I haven't read his book to confirm it.)

But if he did, I guess I've been right all this time in describing it in similar terms.

But I have to ask- did Major Pratt's concerns about the quality of D&E soldiers apply to officers as well?

Again, Ray...............perhaps you'd like to enlighten me.

The DLA Piper team would love to know.

And then, there's one final matter...........

Your citation also reads that you whipped the men of the D&E Platoon into an "effective fighting force."

But it raises a curious question- if your platoon had been so wonderfully whipped into shape, and was so "effective", why wasn't it chosen to accompany Arrowsmith at the ambush at Thua Tich? After all, our 'ad hoc' platoon had no officer in charge, not even a sergeant. Yours did. So- where were you, Ray?

Or is Ashley Ekins correct- you were there all the while, giving orders to all 80 men under your command?

I'd appreciate a quick response Ray. Things are moving along nicely in other spheres.

When you've had your say, and clarified a few things, you can get back to throwing you weight around that prestigious golf club again.

But then again, I don't really expect to hear from you Ray. You're already complicit in that conspiracy of silence being adhered to by other cowards.

 

Don Tate, Vietnam veteran '68/'69

ex-4RAR; ex-2nd D&E Platoon; ex-9RAR; ex- 1Mil Hospital

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« Reply #120 on: Tuesday11October2011 »

Sick of hearing about this wanker. The sooner he kicks the bucket the better
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Tate is a desperado. He is determined to bring down the Australian Army and the Vietnam Veteran community at ANY cost. He is not a truth seeker, he is an egomaniac who will never accept any other versions of the world other than his own. He would be more fitted to be sitting in the Vatican where he would have his authority through infallibility.

Tate has attacked just about anybody you can think of to get HIS way. It is indeed strange that his supporters from the Veteran community are very few and far between, and the amazing thing is that from the hundreds of men he must have had some sort of service contact with a mere handful have raised their hands to meekly support his contentions in vague ways. I wonder if these same men would front a full Judicial Inquiry or Parliamentary Inquiry and say what they have said under oath?

Tate keeps shifting the goal posts and is a clever word smith. One minute he is on about atrocities, the next the faking of Australia's military history, the next the non existent 2nd D&E Pl, and on and on. Then with his clever word smithing skills he is adept at twisting and turning what is innocuous information and events into something they never were and never will be.

Tate will never beat the experts and officials who are dedicated to collating and presenting Australia's military history in a very professional and non partisan manner. Do they make mistakes. Well show me a man who has never made a mistake and I will show you a man who has never made anything.

Tate will go on and on and on because he is a pig headed, arrogant prick who is still fighting a War which ended nearly 40 years ago. Hopefully for everybody concerned he will take a stroke or lose the plot completely and get locked up.

PS: I must mention that pathetic creep and former excuse for a journalist Frank Walker. Walker, in his rush for money and notoriety, has swallowed Tate's line hook, line and sinker. Oh what a shock Walker is in for when he discovers Tate's information is very very dirty and highly tainted ( even for Walker's standards ) and oh how Walker will feel the full Tate venom when he eventually fails to behave and speak and write just as Donny wants him to.

Walker is motivated by making money at any cost to shore up his retirement. He has no interest in the truth.
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« Reply #118 on: Monday10October2011 »

Ruger, you are so right. Only staff get 'posted' to hospitals.
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Is there no end to this prick !!!

Smith has more important things to do as minister than to answer this turd burglar !!~ 

If my memory serves me well, a soldier who is in a unit *eg 4 RAR, and is repatriated to Australia for WIA for medical treatment, the soldier is posted by MOB 3 and POR from 4RAR to (in Tate's case) the Unallotted List Northern Command and then comes onto the Roll Books of 1 Military Hospital (for accounting and rations) with his parent unit then being UL/N COMD.



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Tatey boy questions every one again but still won't answer questions put to him.
Also he has just served with another unit, check out the bottom line...................hahahahahaha ........what a wanker.


From: Donald Tate

Date: 6/10/2011 1:12:51 PM

Cc: Stephen Smith \(Minister\);  Warren.snowdon.MP@aph.gov.au

Subject: SHOULD ASHLEY EKINS BE TRUSTED WITH OUR MILITARY HISTORY?


Historian, Ashley Ekins has some answering to do.

Prior to 2006, he steadfastly refused to even contemplate the possibility that the 2nd D&E Platoon existed.

In fact, in 2007, he handed me two foolscap pages of the documents he and his 'researchers' had supposedly checked for any mention of the platoon. They found NOTHING!

What's more, he and his researchers were unable to locate the major players in the matter- Arrowsmith; Pratt; and co. Hands in the air, it was. No check of the Electoral Rolls. No phone books. No 'old boy' networks. No ESO's. No DVA check. Nothing.

As for any suggestion of a cover-up of 'atrocities' and the deliberate compromising of the service records of the men in that platoon - he wouldn't have a bar of it. Told us in no uncertain terms that according to Arrowsmith and official reports, all the bodies had been neatly buried.

He almost fell off his perch though when we handed him the Engineer's Narrative that referred to the "new" D&E Platoon.

And when the Army History Unit analysed the evidence we provided and agreed that the 2nd D&E Platoon did exist, he still refused to accept it.

But worst of all, he and his highly paid 'reasearchers' couldn't find the papers concerning Major Gordon Pound's Enquiry of 1976? It was 'gone', if it ever existed.

The AWM certainly didn't have it; wasn't even aware of it.

The ADF didn't have it. We've searched everywhere, they reckoned It doesn't exist!

Crikey- (and strangely) even Major George Pound couldn't remember even holding the Enquiry. Tough luck, he?

But Frank Walker managed to find it- or rather, it found him.

There it was, all this time, clearly marked '"Atrocities- South Vietnam- 3CAV" ...sitting in the National Archives! Buried.

Not only had it apparently been hidden- but certain individuals had accessed it 13 times since 1976!

I can only wonder who might've done that. And what else was stolen from it?

And what was left in it? Well.......for starters, verification that Brigadier Pearson had instructed Major Ron Rooks to query Capt Arrowsmith as to what he'd done with the bodies. According to the report, Arrowsmith had apparently said he'd "destroyed" them.

Pearson took no action.

That's right, no action. Despite the conventions of the Geneva Areement being ignored, he did nothing!

Well almost nothing. He did recommend Arrowsmith for a gallantry medal- the MC. That's a good way to stop people looking under the surface. Works almost all the time. Take Buick....!

And you reckon this whole matter doesn't stink to high heaven?

But to top it off, Ekins sat at a Standing Committee on Petitions in March 2010- and blatantly told that House of Representatives Committee that there was "absolutely no evidence" that the platoon existed. (There'll be questions asked by men much more prominent than me about that matter, in due course!)

This then is the problem.............

Ashley Ekins' 3rd Volume of the history of the Vietnam War was due to be published in 2008, or that's what big-head Buick boasted. Then it was going to be 2009. Then 2010.

Apparently, it's in the hands of the publisher now.

But it begs the question- will this be the true history of the Vietnam War, or not?

Or will the truth be sanitised just like the photographs from Thua Tich and many other battles held by the War Memorial have been, and those by the ADF?

How many first-hand accounts by soldiers will be ignored by men in suits who never set foot on a battlefield?

How much more 'history' will simply 'disappear' into shredders by ex-generals with keys to the vault?

How much more collusion will there be by generals and other senior officers hell-bent on protecting their own reputations, and to hell with the accuracy of history?

And can we trust an historian who has difficulty locating evidence, and key figures involved in a significant investigation?

Every bloke who laid his life on the line for this country needs to know the answers.

Don Tate, Vietnam veteran '68/'69

Ex-4RAR; ex-2nd D&E Platoon; ex-9RAR; ex- 1Mil Hospital

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Tate again has verbal discharge especially when it comes to 'knowledge" of all things.....

1.   A sordid act is not heard in a civil court...it is a criminal offence...wrong again Tate
2.   Irrespective of what a person may or may not be convicted of, such offences if guilty, can never, NEVER, affect a persons campaign or service medals...they are entitled to life entitlement...,,wrong again TATE

3.  A person is never 'drummed out of the Army, Corps or Unit".....it has never been a ritual or form of discharge....the expression "drummed out" is a loosely used term for being discharged.....wrong again TATE.

TATE is just so ill-informed on so many matters....its any wonder people burr up with his outlandish claims !!!

And the AFP and Defence Department never have the inclination or desire to investigate 'alleged breaches' as claimed by TATE......they have more important things to do....wrong again TATE
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« Reply #114 on: Sunday21August2011 »

Come on tatoe head, you have had your hand on it for 40 years. Is that why someone whacked you? You changed hands!
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The latest rant from our Tater boy............

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:24 PM
Subject: improper wearing of war medals


After arriving home from Vietnam today, I found a letter from the Hon Brendan O'Connor MP, Minister for Home Affairs and Justice.
It was in reference to complaints I have lodged against two of the turds operating from the pig trough known as the AVM. I refer to Keith Tennant and Alan Price, and both complaints refer to their wearing of war medals.
 
Mr. O'Connor advised that the "improper use of service decorations is an offence against the Defence Act 1903 and that the Federal Government takes a serious view" of such crimes.
 
He further stated that "while the AFP is the primary law enforcement agency for investigating offences against the Commonwealth, the full responsibility is shared amongst a number of agencies."
 
He further advised that "(my) concerns are the direct responsibility of the Inspector-General Branch of the Department of Defence," and given the "very important concerns" I raised, would be directing the matter directly to the Minister for Defence, the Hon Stephen Smith MP.
 
The matter raised were:
 
1. Keith Tennant
 
In the case of KeithTennant, I am advised that Tennant was discharged early from the Army (Artillery Corps) after being accused of a sordid act with a nine-year old boy- the son of a fellow sergeant. He was tried in a civil court, and found guilty. It is my understanding that a 'man' drummed out of the Corps is not entitled to wear service medals.
 
Tennant has been photographed wearing same (see Attachment 1) as well as the Infantry Combat Badge, so the enquiry will determine if a federal offence or offences have been committed.
 
As a major player in the AVM web site (using the alias "SPARTACUS", among others) Tennant vilified and slandered many other veterans, and included in his acquaintances, some very imortant and influential people (perhaps of the same persuasions as Tennant).
 
The fact that he was used by Steve Gower (a pillar of the military 'establishment') as a postman will also be part of a different inquiry.
 
Alan Price
 
Alan Price is President of the 4RAR Association (QLD) and although issuing an official denial of being in any way concerned with the AVM web site and the slander and vilification emanating from it, was revealed to be both a liar and a hypocrite when it was revealed that he had been a significant member of the AVM under both his own name, and also under the rather effeminate alias of "BEEBEE".
 
He had buddied up with some influential former officers of 4RAR (including Brian Avery) and officers from other regiments to shore up his position as a genuine representative of an ex-service organisation, and to give him some credibility. It was also a ploy to secure a civilian award.
 
It had been a concern of other members of 4RAR that Alan Price wore both Vietnam campaign medals, despite only serving a hundred days or so in the war. (He had fallen over a stick and hurt his knee.) Some members had taken him to task about it, and for a while, removed one of the medals.
 
He then started wearing both medals again. Some time ago, Ted Colmer sent me a picture of Price wearing both medals. It was taken by a local newspaper reporter chasing down a major story in Price's suburb- someone had stolen Price's flag pole, and he'd rushed inside to suit up for the picture!
 
His story now is that he had injured his knee in combat- and therefore qualified as a casevac. We'll see.
Don Tate

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« Reply #112 on: Monday04July2011 »

Savage 1 you are spot on.
I am not Normie Rowe.
I do not know Don tate.
I have posted only 3 times on this site.
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Spot on Ethelred - I got mine from the same source but I goofed on the ATF unit posting (oops). 
He also lied about being on a track on Op "Massey Harris" which hit a mine in Aug 1970 -
4/7/11:  This is in reply to Ethelred's comment on Kevin "Mother" Quick.

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4/7/11:  This is a comment on the Federal Court's decision in Milbourne.
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4/7/11:  Another comment on pensions and related TPI matters.
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« Reply #111 on: Sunday03July2011 »

Donald Tate!
 Pull your trousers up, take your pills, and go home. There is more to life then what you bring to this world. Stop flashing your self and be a good boy and just go home. No one wants to listen you your ramblings or your fairytales any more. You are a burnt out old man with absolutely no life experiences in dealing with society, so just go home. Most of the Veteran community have years of experience over you and they have walked the walk, talked the talk, and supported their mates to the end. You Donnie Boy have done non of these things for any one. You have used, abused and tried to discredit others to no avail. So, do your pants up and go home.
Donnie Boy, except it you are a failure even as a bullshit-artist. Just go home!!!Ken.T.
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« Reply #110 on: Sunday03July2011 »

The latest Tate diatribe.

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen ; Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:28 PM
Subject: AVM contributors unmasked


This needs to be brief, and I'll elaborate further at a later date.
Simply, most of the gutless AVM contributors have been unmasked.
It's interesting to note that quite a number of 'contributors' were actually the same person. They contributed under various pseudonyms in order to persuade decent veterans that the AVM web site was a vital organisation.
We know for a fact that KEITH TENNANT (the rock spider), BARRY BILLING (the thief), FRANK GRADY (wannabee infantryman) and PETER MACKIE (another wannabee) each used at least two pseudonyms. Frank Grady was so stupid, he used "KD117" to write nice things about himself ("D371")
Alan Price disguised himself as "Bee Bee" until he was caught out. Thereafter, he used his real name. Same as Normie Rowe (used "CAVMAN" while carrying out his cowardly attacks, and Normie Rowe after he was sprung.)
There were a couple of duplicitous fools among them: 'Bomber' Bob Gibson ("NUIDAT 68") and Ernest Brendon-Cremer being two of the more noteworthy. They had a lot to say- until being revealed to be useless ex-Privates who were unwanted by battalions and saw out their service days as kitchen hands in the various D&E Platoons.
With the exception of Alan Price (who did see some combat with 4RAR before tripping over his bootlaces) none of the rest saw any action whatsoever. (QLD Police have advised that while they didn't take action about his offensive emails, he is now on their records.)
Which brings me to 'Fergus Fairfax'.
I don't mean the "Fergus'" who have mutated recently, but the 'Fergus' who ponced around as "global moderator" of the AVM web site initially.
It's amazing what forensic investigation you can score if you're prepared to spend $300 per hour- and don't bother with the Supreme Court writ. There are those who abide by the law; and those who hack for the sport of it (and some cash on the side.)
Fergus thinks that he's got away scot free with his vitriol and his slander. He's wrong.
As well as a number of significant politicians currently officially reviewing the operations of that web site (and how they did so or so long without action being taken by the AFP being part of the current investigations) privately, we were able to use basic information gathered by a most-respected officer and build on that.
The expose on 'Fergus' (think sexual aberrations etc etc) is forthcoming- and so too, will be my revenge.
And it'll be worth waiting for.
 
Don Tate


Goodness we have some laughs. On the serious side it is unfortunate to see innocent people falsely accused.

Tate and his gang of super sleuths would never get a job with ASIO, the Office of National Assessments or the AFP!

Tate always wants it both ways. On the one hand he calls on the Law and Police to protect him and look after him YET when it suits him he is prepared to break the Law and use others who are prepared to break the Law to get what he wants.

Hacking is Illegal under the Commonwealth Crimes Act. So Tate, if you are colluding and fraternising with hackers and encouraging them to hack, you and they are breaking the very Law you want to protect you. Probably your email is mostly bluff as are most of your vomitous writings, but if indeed you are engaged somehow in hacking you have broadcast this fact to the world and let the world know you are in breach of the Law.

Now we suspect your Officer friend is Brig Neil Weekes. If so you better not put any weight on any advice he gives you about who we are. Weekes has a track record for being so far wide of the mark it is laughable. Of course Weekes needs to remember that as a member of the PMs Advisory Council he has responsibilities to all Veterans and not just those he picks and chooses. Neil Weekes has a lot to answer for when one looks at his behaviour towards his fellow War Veterans.

Anyway as we say this has given us a good belly laugh again.

Keep guessing. The truth is closer than you think.
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« Reply #109 on: Sunday03July2011 »

I know that, you know that and maybe a couple of others but Tate doesn't know. Tate couldn't find his own bum with his own two hands.
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« Reply #108 on: Sunday03July2011 »

What an idiot - he still has not got it right.  CAVMAN is NOT Normie Rowe.
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« Reply #107 on: Saturday02July2011 »

The latest Tate diatribe.

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen ; Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:28 PM
Subject: AVM contributors unmasked


This needs to be brief, and I'll elaborate further at a later date.
Simply, most of the gutless AVM contributors have been unmasked.
It's interesting to note that quite a number of 'contributors' were actually the same person. They contributed under various pseudonyms in order to persuade decent veterans that the AVM web site was a vital organisation.
We know for a fact that KEITH TENNANT (the rock spider), BARRY BILLING (the thief), FRANK GRADY (wannabee infantryman) and PETER MACKIE (another wannabee) each used at least two pseudonyms. Frank Grady was so stupid, he used "KD117" to write nice things about himself ("D371")
Alan Price disguised himself as "Bee Bee" until he was caught out. Thereafter, he used his real name. Same as Normie Rowe (used "CAVMAN" while carrying out his cowardly attacks, and Normie Rowe after he was sprung.)
There were a couple of duplicitous fools among them: 'Bomber' Bob Gibson ("NUIDAT 68") and Ernest Brendon-Cremer being two of the more noteworthy. They had a lot to say- until being revealed to be useless ex-Privates who were unwanted by battalions and saw out their service days as kitchen hands in the various D&E Platoons.
With the exception of Alan Price (who did see some combat with 4RAR before tripping over his bootlaces) none of the rest saw any action whatsoever. (QLD Police have advised that while they didn't take action about his offensive emails, he is now on their records.)
Which brings me to 'Fergus Fairfax'.
I don't mean the "Fergus'" who have mutated recently, but the 'Fergus' who ponced around as "global moderator" of the AVM web site initially.
It's amazing what forensic investigation you can score if you're prepared to spend $300 per hour- and don't bother with the Supreme Court writ. There are those who abide by the law; and those who hack for the sport of it (and some cash on the side.)
Fergus thinks that he's got away scot free with his vitriol and his slander. He's wrong.
As well as a number of significant politicians currently officially reviewing the operations of that web site (and how they did so or so long without action being taken by the AFP being part of the current investigations) privately, we were able to use basic information gathered by a most-respected officer and build on that.
The expose on 'Fergus' (think sexual aberrations etc etc) is forthcoming- and so too, will be my revenge.
And it'll be worth waiting for.
 
Don Tate
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« Reply #106 on: Tuesday24May2011 »

Tate is still showing his vast knowledge of military matters from his perspective as a substantive Private soldier! Thannk Christ he never made Lance Corporal!
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« Reply #105 on: Monday23May2011 »

Tate that wanta be-war hero is blabbering off again.
Here he is having another try to upset others.
What a waste of space.
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From: Allen Petersen [mailto:petersaj@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 2:05 PM
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Subject: Arthur Clive Mitchell-Taylor Misses out on National Presidency

 
From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Cc: cmt@cyberone.com.au
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 11:20 AM
Subject: Arthur Clive Mitchell-Taylor misses out on National Presidency

Chickens coming home to rest?
Recently, Mr Clive Mitchell Taylor OAM JP ran against Mr Ron Coxon OAM for the National VVAA Presidency at the VVAA National Congress.
I have been informed that he went down 10 votes to 6 simply because Vietnam veterans in a majority of State branches are well aware of CMT's close association and support of Barry Billing who allegedly, fraudulently misappropriated BEST funding from DVA to be used to help Veterans lodge claims for compensation to DVA. True to form, criminal Billing allegedly helped himself on all fronts- and those who supported him now carry the stench associated with him.
The AFP and at least one investigative journalist are currently investigating those frauds and those who assisted in them.
As well, it didn't sit well with many genuine men that Mitchell-Taylor subscribed to, and contributed to, the AVM forum, where he used a cowardly pseudonym to hide behind. He found himself in company with (and forever tainted by that association) a known paedophile (TENNANT), a fraudster (BILLING), four lying wannabee fools who saw no combat in Vietnam (GRADY, MACKIE, GIBSON AND MAHER) and an assortment of big-talking, but gutless dickheads.
 
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« Reply #104 on: Saturday23April2011 »

If the little Donny Boy Tater decided to march/stroll/ limp on Monday, whats the bet it won't be with 4RAR.
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« Reply #103 on: Saturday02April2011 »

As I said before Shadow, I reckon he was drunk and fell over his back steps. Grin
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« Reply #102 on: Saturday02April2011 »

According to Tate and his apologists those who oppose Tate's behaviour and actions are evil, sick, warped, grubs, maggots and worse. The funny thing is that whenever anybody is taken to task with their own words and with sourced facts which they cannot refute they always attack the messenger personally.

Ho hum so be it.

Regarding Tates latest about being physically attacked I'd like to contribute just a few observations, some of which have probably been made.

What on earth was Tate doing out walking and exercising at that time of night? It seems a very very strange time to choose, but then we know that Tate is a very very strange bloke.

How did his alleged attacker/s know he would be exercising that particular night at that particular time? Did the alleged attacker/s sit in wait like somebody from NCIS for weeks on end until Tate finally appeared, then hastily attack him and leave evidence behind? Surely anybody who would be prepared to spend so much time waiting would have planned the attack so that no evidence was left at the scene?

Who took the picture of Tate and when?

The Police treat violent assault very seriously. If the Police had been called immediately to a hot crime scene they would have lifted remaining evidence immediately, taken victim and witness statements and initiated an immediate investigation. It is now April. The attack allegedly occurred in January from memory. What has happened to the investigation? Tate says he has friends in high places in the Police service of NSW. If so surely they would prioritise a mates case?

Was the alleged attack reported in the local newspaper. They just love this type of hysteria.

The injuries do not look consistent with a punch up but more with grazing and scraping.

On and on one can go.

But in the end who cares? With people like Tate it is impossible to reason and talk sense.
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« Reply #101 on: Friday01April2011 »

Seeing as how the alleged assault occurred at 2330hrs, I think most would have been in bed well by then.

Did it really happen or was it self inflicted as was alleged the "stabbing" incident in Brisbane was?

If it was at that time of night, he has upset someone, most likely in the reported vehicle as he was exercising his "new knee".

I think, he may have been a bit slow crossing the road somewhere and he abused the occupants of the vehicle in question and then it was "cop this"
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« Reply #100 on: Monday28March2011 »

Dear Donny, you say.........
 "The matter was reported to police immediately, and they are investigating". 
Would it be possible to see exactly what you wrote in your statement made out at the police station ? Beause if not I, and most of Australia, do not believe a word you have printed.
Naaa, I suggest you couldn't do that because you went nowhere near the local cop shop and all you did was ring your daughter.
While we are at it Donny boy, tell us about the chaperon.
How about it Donny, put up or shut up.
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« Reply #99 on: Monday28March2011 »

Dear oh dear,

Have you ever known of a "man" [ er well excuse for a man ] who has ever had soooooo many problems in life. Geeeez it's enough to make us here want to volunteer for Lifeline.  What a load of codswallop. The bovine excrement meter just went through the roof on this one.

This blokette has had more problems than the early settlers. Take off your skirt tate and be a man and accept your have been beaten by the truth. We know you won't though because sociopaths never do accept the truth about themselves. They will hurt and use anybody to get what they want.

Oh and while we are at it this is the first we have ever heard of this alleged incident. Tate you lie so much nobody believes a word you say and we don't believe this latest drivel.

We have never incited or organised anybody to physical violence. We don't have to. Telling the truth is enough.

Off you go and play Police investigator and we will get on with real lives.

PS, just a thort. tate you bashed up a disabled Veteran while he was in a wheel chair. We have many instances recorded where you offer physical violence to those who tell the truth about you. You admit you were raised in a physically violent home. Kids raised in physically violent homes learn that behaviour as normal. If indeed you did get snotted and didn't fall over while drunk has it crossed your mind that this might be karma. What goes around comes around.

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In recent months, threats of violence against me have been made by Alan Price; Ted Colmer; "CICERO"; "RUGER 357"; "NUIDAT 68"; "STEEL"; "JIMMY" and other cowards hiding behind the AVM web site.

So Tate is still peddling his lies.

At no time have I ever threatened violence to Tate or anyone else for that matter.

Anyone  that wants to check my posts on this site will see that Tate is lying.

He's living in a dream world.

And here's a reminder for Tate. I am not Peter Maher.
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« Reply #97 on: Monday28March2011 »

And it has been confirmed now by at least five independent sources that TATE was not in attendance at any  4 RAR event at the TWEED last month, as claimed in the Tweed Post.

another string of bullshit that a gullible press print !!

And as a proud member of the 4 RAR Association, but absent in Poland  at the time attending to a death in the family, and unable to attend this re-union, I am reliably and emphatically informed by members who DID attend, that TATE did not attend the 4 RAR
Re-union.

Maybe Tate has been reading too many spy and novels of intrigue .....still promoting his book, which is now reduced at $10 at BookWorld in Hurstville   
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« Reply #96 on: Monday28March2011 »

Members, please take the time to critically read and analyse Tate's message in his email.  Full of inconstistencies and fanciful expressions.  Almost like a Statement of Facts.  (Would be great to cross examine Tate on his recollections)

1.  Police do not let anyone know the outcome or progress of their investigations until such time as the offender is charged.  (WRONG AGAIN TATE)

2.  Why has it taken since Jan 11 for Tate to publicly announce he got a flogging, and the circumstances.

3.  Does Tate know there is a relationship of the blood on the bus shelter to the blood at the scene, and is it the offenders or his.  NO, this is never disclosed until such time as an offender is before the courts.

Come on Don, wake up and don't treat us as idiots.  We all watch CSI, and other police shows on TV......

Lets look at some facts...Tate has been the one going back years who has defamed, abused and maligned decent and honourable veterans.  Tate started his tirade a few years ago when decent veterans, who know how the military works and rely on facts and evidence, claimed Tate's existence of a Second D & E Platoon were just not real and could not happen for a host of reasons.

Since then, Tate has continually abused and defamed veterans who dare question his research and outlandish statements.  Even ted Colmer has given Tate the short shift....

Tate has been exposed on this site for a long time for what he really is.  AVM have supplied the evidence to rebut Tate on every aspect and he still continues to probe and postulate theories. 

I bet those he names and those who go by nicknames are just waiting for a visit from the Police. 





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« Reply #95 on: Monday28March2011 »

Poor Don,  and Don you will read the comments on this site following your email to all and sundry !!

seems he just cant take a trick or win a fight !!  Who in their right mind (on behalf of Fergus and AVM) would stalk Tate and wait for him in ambush and flog the FXXX out of him......and have an accomplice !!!

I would like to know what alleged threatening statements I have made to him on this site....so come on Tate, produce your evidence of my so called (according to your mind) threatening statements

Oh well, who cares anyway.....

maybe his injuries prevented him from attending to 4 RAR Re-Union, or was he so incapacitated he could not leave the confines of his bunker

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« Reply #94 on: Monday28March2011 »

Little Donny falls over............he attached 2 photo's to his message without time/date stamps. The first pic shows him with a bruised eye, which could be from a trip over his back step when drunk, and the second one shows red spots on what looks like a clean piece of concrete, which could easily be a pic of his garage floor.

From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:56 AM
Subject: Don Tate bashed/ Police actions


On the 11th January this year, I was exercising my new knee on the footpath not far from my home. It was about 11.30 pm.
A car stopped in front of me, a man exited the car from the passenger side (about my age or so) ran towards me, and as he neared me, king hit me with a forarm across the forehead, knocking me backwards onto the concrete foootpath.
My head slammed into the concrete, and my left elbow was severely damaged.
He then proceeded to strike me in the face, neck and chest areas with his fists.
As a result of my herad hitting the concrete, I wasn't fully aware of what was happening for a few seconds. My only retaliation was to attempt to shove his nose into his brain. I was partially successful.
He said two things: "This is from the AVM!" and, at the same time as striking me in the stomach, said, "And this is from Fergus!"
(I am bemused by this. I guess it is a demonstration of outright arrogance on the part of the maggots to think they can strike at any time with impunity, that their 'security measures' are safe and sound. We'll see.)
He then ran off, and jumped back into the car (a greyish, Kluger type of thing)
I was cleaned up at the local garage, and drove myself to hospital without waking Carole.
I was sown up, and discharged about 3 am the next morning.
I had brain scans etc the next day. I still have one.
The matter was reported to police immediately, and they are investigating.
Blood was left at the scene, and a bloodied handprint on the back of a bus shelter nearby.
Just prior to the assault, a picture of my house had been placed on the internet by "ZION". It followed slanderous comments from "KD117" (containing a reference to my 'shack'.) 'KD117's identity is already known by police, and he has made admissions concerning another pseudonym he's hidden behind.
In recent months, threats of violence against me have been made by Alan Price; Ted Colmer; "CICERO"; "RUGER 357"; "NUIDAT 68"; "STEEL"; "JIMMY" and other cowards hiding behind the AVM web site.
Police are also investigating individuals for criminal defamation. I attach a recent newspaper article in relation to that, and suggest that EVERY person who has been slandered, defamed, or vilified by the mongrels at the AVM web site initiate similar action. I suggest that the former officer and gentleman, Arthur Clive Mitchell-Taylor and the most protected man in Vietnam, Normie Rowe, should start considering their situations. Too late for you- Francis Grady!
If the assault was intended to scare me off from pursuing the glory-hunting officers responsible for the 2nd D&E Platoon matter, they're wrong.
It it was designed to warn me that the 'military establishment' won't tolerate an upstart tackling them- they're wrong.
Instead, I am empowered.
But on orders from my wife, I won't be walking alone, late at night any more. Next time, you'll have to strike in the daylight- but then, the light of day is what scares you maggots the most.
Don Tate


Now that readers have digested the foregoing I wonder how many are wondering who in their right mind would be out at 2330hrs waiting for Donny Boy to exercise his new knee.  Huh Huh Huh  Beats me.

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« Reply #93 on: Saturday26March2011 »

Hi, My mate/advocate in Brisbane has Tate's claims from his web site about brain damage and is doing a submission.
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« Reply #92 on: Tuesday22March2011 »

And it has been confirmed now by at least five independent sources that TATE was not in attendance at any  4 RAR event at the TWEED last month, as claimed in the Tweed Post.

another string of bullshit that a gullible press print !!
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« Reply #91 on: Tuesday22March2011 »

The Main Page of his Facebook has been printed, scanned and converted to JPEG and on its way to you by email

If others wish to see his FB and all his posts and 'friends' they too should get a FB,  or use a family members and view what this rabbit is up to..  and all his self praise "I was wounded" and his gripping novel !!

MOUSE OVER PIC AND CLICK TO ENLARGE


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« Reply #90 on: Tuesday22March2011 »

Ruger if you send to admin@austvetmatters.net we can fix it up and remove your name etc and then post in here , with credits to you.

AVM.
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« Reply #89 on: Monday21March2011 »

I have been to Tate' Facebook page and printed his Main page out in colour.

It can be converted to a JPEG and posted here but if I try to upload the JPEG, it identifiies who I am as my PC name is on the JPEG and I cannot remove it.

Maybe the moderator will accept an email with the attachments for uploading here

Over to you Moderator !!
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« Reply #88 on: Saturday19March2011 »

Just wondering about Tates little dust up while 'protecting' his girls sporting team.  Where was the 'official' chaperone at the time and what was she doing?  Was she in Tates bed at the time and was that the cause of the 'big hero' action man getting smacked on his noggin? Huh Huh
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« Reply #87 on: Friday18March2011 »

Tates website is back up and running. I haven't checked to see if he has pruned any information from it. Maybe he has removed the part which dobs him in regarding the reasons for his stopping work.

PS  if anybody mentioned on his site who has been lied about, defamed and vilified then my advice is forget a defamation case....way too expensive with maybe no return. Make an official complaint to the host mentioned in this thread below [ the company which publishes his website ] and to the Australian Communications Authority, and Federal Ombudsman.
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« Reply #86 on: Wednesday16March2011 »

I think it very appropriate that the alias given to him is taken from a kids movie (Toy Story), the same as his book is!
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« Reply #85 on: Wednesday16March2011 »

I can't recall Tatoe Head claiming to be bi-lingual (Vietnamese) in any postings he's made. One would certainly hope that the Vietnamese female "friends" being young, perhaps 20 - 25 yrs old, is above board! Like most of us he is 60 yrs+
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« Reply #84 on: Monday14March2011 »

Thanks Ruger. Gee they are tight eh? I think the way to go is open a fake page , read his data then shut down.
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« Reply #83 on: Monday14March2011 »

Unless you have FACE BOOK, you cant read his page and information.

Sorry tried to lift it, but cant.

Perhaps you can create a phantom FaceBook and have a look and then close it down !!!

unless there are better boffins than me that can do it !!!  I have tried but failed miserably !!
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« Reply #82 on: Monday14March2011 »

Shadow, i will see what I can do with a cut and paste

wait out
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« Reply #81 on: Monday14March2011 »

Ruger I refuse to open a Facebook account for many reasons. Any chance of copying his info into a word doc or something and posting in here. I assume if you post the url non members can't read what is there?

Thanks.
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« Reply #80 on: Monday14March2011 »

If you have a Facebook, go to SEARCH and type in Donald William Tate, and you will see the list of same names there, I did it at random and he was the first ugly dial to appear.

Then you can trawl through and see all his wonderful friends.

And of course, if you wish to be his friend, you know what to do then !!!!

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« Reply #79 on: Sunday13March2011 »

There is some comment that Tate did not attend the 4RAR Re-union on other forums, but may have attended the Tweed Coast to promote himself.  I doubt he would have been that blase to walk into the hounds nest with all those baying for his scalp.

Can any one actually confirm he was at the Re-union, not that it matters really,

Oh, was the photo in the Tweed posing with his epic novel posed, if you note he is not wearing the 4 RAR tie...but the 8/9 RAR tie.

Oh and have at look at his Facebook...all his veteran mates (named on AVM) as well as his new found friends in USA (Veterans) and young girls from Vietnam.  On his way to being in the Hall of Fame and Fortune as a renowned writer of mystery novels.

What a wank

Hi Ruger. What is his facebook address please?
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« Reply #78 on: Sunday13March2011 »

There is some comment that Tate did not attend the 4RAR Re-union on other forums, but may have attended the Tweed Coast to promote himself.  I doubt he would have been that blase to walk into the hounds nest with all those baying for his scalp.

Can any one actually confirm he was at the Re-union, not that it matters really,

Oh, was the photo in the Tweed posing with his epic novel posed, if you note he is not wearing the 4 RAR tie...but the 8/9 RAR tie.

Oh and have at look at his Facebook...all his veteran mates (named on AVM) as well as his new found friends in USA (Veterans) and young girls from Vietnam.  On his way to being in the Hall of Fame and Fortune as a renowned writer of mystery novels.

What a wank
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« Reply #77 on: Saturday12March2011 »

Don't worry about Mr Tatoe Head;'s threats and promises to anyone.

The proof will be in the pudding should DVA take an honest re-assessment of his case and apply the law!

He may keep the car, which is fair enough, no problems there.

But fraud if he did not declare the permanent brain damge, $50k compo and retirement on those grounds!
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« Reply #76 on: Saturday12March2011 »

Tate was at up there. Don Tate travelled from Wollongong to attend the reunion despite being unable to march due to a war injury.

Makes you wonder about that. All those years playing cricket and a fast bowler and now he can't cover the distance of the march which was only about 1 km at the most.

This is what he said in an email dated 19 Jan 2011

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http://www.tweednews.com.au/story/2011/02/02/tweed-vietnam-vets/






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« Reply #75 on: Saturday12March2011 »

Tate says he was at the recent 4 RAR Re-Union on the Tweed.

Does anyone have any knowledge of how he was received etc, especially as he was after Alan Price's head, or did he just fade in the background?

would love to hear from anyone who was there
I have it on very good authority he did not show at the 4RAR Reuniom
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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday09March2011 »

In relation to Tatoeheads $50k payment from the Victims of Crime Compensation Tribunal, or whatever they were called, my local retired Police Sgt told me that, that was the maximum amount of compensation for a severe permanent injury, at that time (1993).

So, did Tatoe Head, declare this serious permanent condition of brain damage and his compo payout?

The DVA investigators will find out. They will have unlimited access to his employment records, as they did to me when I was jumping hoops, they accessed 4 years of my bank records. No stone unturned!

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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday09March2011 »

Tate says he was at the recent 4 RAR Re-Union on the Tweed.

Does anyone have any knowledge of how he was received etc, especially as he was after Alan Price's head, or did he just fade in the background?

would love to hear from anyone who was there
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« Reply #72 on: Monday07March2011 »

I will have to play devils advocate here  Cool

It seems it is indisputable that Tate has said he was retired from the NSW Education Department due to brain damage.

POINT 1. Tate is such a pathological liar we must ask the question " was he lying when he made this statement on his website and in his book"?

POINT 2. Let us assume he was indeed retired from the NSW Education Department because of brain damage sustained during an attack on his person. The question must then be asked " did he then find work somewhere else and then was he unable to continue this new work because of his accepted disabilities ALONE" ?

Just being me. I detest Tate and I hope he has tried to con DVA.
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« Reply #71 on: Monday07March2011 »

Only have to read the Administrative Appeals Web Site each week to see how decisions are made.  Amazing how many veterans pass three of the four criteria, but fail the 'alone' test.  Based on what I have read on this site about Tatohead, he definitely would NOT pass the fourth criteria & therefore would NOT get TPI.  Have DVA been hoodwinked again?
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« Reply #70 on: Monday07March2011 »

I've just been talking to a mate who attended one of Tate's book selling whistle stops and he told me that tate charged $15 for a signed copy of his book!

Does DVA know this?
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« Reply #69 on: Monday07March2011 »

Thanks Steel, that is exactly what my Advocate said. I didn't understand it when I went through the system
So,to the unnanointed, Tate has never been eligible for the TPI. Brain damage, at the time of application, ruled him out.
Oh boy! I hope DVA takes a serious view of this when my mate does his submission!
This is interesting!
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« Reply #68 on: Monday07March2011 »

I am not an advocate, nor do I profess to know the ins and outs of the VEA system, but I did find this in a recent AAT hearing.

Make of it what you will

Section 24 of the VE Act relevantly provides:
“ 24 Special rate of pension
(1) This section applies to a veteran if:
(aa) the veteran has made a claim under section 14 for a pension, or an application under section 15 for an increase in the rate of the pension that he or she is receiving; and
(aab) the veteran had not yet turned 65 when the claim or application was made; and
(a) either:
(i) the degree of incapacity of the veteran from war-caused injury or war-caused disease, or both, is determined under section 21A to be at least 70% or has been so determined by a determination that is in force; or
(ii) ...; and
(b) the veteran is totally and permanently incapacitated, that is to say, the veteran’s incapacity from war-caused injury or war-caused disease, or both, is of such a nature as, of itself alone, to render the veteran incapable of undertaking remunerative work for periods aggregating more than 8 hours per week; and
(c) the veteran is, by reason of incapacity from that war-caused injury or war-caused disease, or both, alone, prevented from continuing to undertake remunerative work that the veteran was undertaking and is, by reason thereof, suffering a loss of salary or wages, or of earnings on his or her own account, that the veteran would not be suffering if the veteran were free of that incapacity; and
(d) section 25 does not apply to the veteran.


(2) For the purpose of paragraph (1)(c):
(a) a veteran who is incapacitated from war-caused injury or war-caused disease, or both, shall not be taken to be suffering a loss of salary or wages, or of earnings on his or her own account, by reason of that incapacity if:
(i) the veteran has ceased to engage in remunerative work for reasons other than his or her incapacity from that war-caused injury or war-caused disease, or both; or
(ii) the veteran is incapacitated, or prevented, from engaging in remunerative work for some other reason;
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« Reply #67 on: Monday07March2011 »

Are there any other Advocates on this site who know about these "contributing factors" and TPI payment?
I think we would all be very interested in more than 1 opinion about this aspect.
We all know what was on his webpage.
Strange it's disappeared since my post, it was there for ages. In his own words, medically retired due to brain damage!
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« Reply #66 on: Monday07March2011 »

Onya Google....all his data remains in the Google cache

Save what you wish Smiley BEFORE the magic Google robot does it's rounds and updates the cache!!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_cG7NjyW4KEJ:www.dontate.info/+http://www.dontate.info/index.php&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&source=www.google.com.au

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qd3UxQyuE_8J:www.dontate.info/index.php%3Fview%3Darticle%26catid%3D34%253Aarticles%26id%3D76%253Aavm-venom%26option%3Dcom_content%26Itemid%3D50+http://www.dontate.info/index.php&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&source=www.google.com.au

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rTcgRzxIayIJ:www.dontate.info/index.php%3Fview%3Darticle%26catid%3D34%253Aarticles%26id%3D78%253Avietnam-maggots-bomber-gibsonvietnam%26option%3Dcom_content%26Itemid%3D50+http://www.dontate.info/index.php&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&source=www.google.com.au

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Wa5STm4FK_YJ:www.dontate.info/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D1%26Itemid%3D27+http://www.dontate.info/index.php&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&source=www.google.com.au

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« Reply #65 on: Monday07March2011 »

Maybe, I've struck a nerve!
When I was in the system, I went through hoops over this "contributing factor" business.
If I'm right, I'm glad I saved his web pages and stuff, including p 390 from his book, and gave them to a good Advocate.
He said,"Tate's TPI grant was wrong at law" due to these contributing factors thing. S24 of the VEA is quite specific, he said.Don't ask me but I jumped through so many hoops.
Maybe Tate will interviewed by the DVA fraud squad and they will obtain all of his records from the NSW Dept of Education about his retirement due to "brain damage"! My mate tells me he fails the "alone test"!
Maybe Tate is a thief and a fraud himself!
If this is true, I hope his book was actually a best seller, as a part from possible facing fraud charges, he may have to pay back the difference between TPI and 100% disability payment for the past 27 years!
Now that is karma!
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« Reply #64 on: Monday07March2011 »

On firing up his vile website I get this

This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.


It is obvious what has happened BUT we don't know why. Maybe somebody made complaints to the host about the content? Just one thought. It seems more likely he hasn't paid the hosting account.

This www.karora.instanthosting.com.au  is the company which was hosting taters lying website. If ya do some research on who this company also hosts you will see they also host porn sites and scam sites from Russia.
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« Reply #63 on: Monday07March2011 »

All he has to do now is withdraw all his bullshit stories and that so called book. Grin

That won't happen, he's still trying to flog it.

Mr. Ego

“I am just an ordinary infantry private, but I can assure you I'm the most interesting of them all,” he said.

http://www.tweednews.com.au/story/2011/02/02/tweed-vietnam-vets/
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« Reply #62 on: Monday07March2011 »

All he has to do now is withdraw all his bullshit stories and that so called book. Grin
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« Reply #61 on: Sunday06March2011 »

On firing up his vile website I get this

This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.


It is obvious what has happened BUT we don't know why. Maybe somebody made complaints to the host about the content? Just one thought. It seems more likely he hasn't paid the hosting account.
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« Reply #60 on: Sunday06March2011 »

Hi folks;

Don Tate's website appears to be off the air - does anyone know whats happening there?
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« Reply #59 on: Friday04March2011 »

While in Brisbane I spoke  to a mate who is an Advocate and Tate came up, I bought it up as I was a bit confused. When I went through the system DVA raised some contributing factors to my unemployment situation, I didn't have a clue what they were talking about then, but soon learnt.

Tate is on a TPI pension and I ask why?

This is from his book about p390 (borrowed from the library, I won't buy it) and web page:

 "Then, in 1992, I battled a masked intruder, armed with a steel wheel brace, trying to break into a motel where I’d housed 12 high school girls. I received brain damage, was medically retired, and received a $50,000 victim’s compensation payout."

Given that he was medically retired from the NSW Education Dept due to brain damage sustained in this incident, how does that equate with his war service? Was this $50k declared to DVA and was his medical retirement from the that Dept also declared?

My mate says that he obviously fails the "alone test" for assessment of TPI pension. He also said it was wrong at law! He will do a submission to the Minister to have Tate's application investigated fully as there maybe a potential fraud matter involved, which is a criminal offence, obviously
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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday23February2011 »

It's quite a while since I've had a look at Tate's site and it's quite a while since I've had a yarn with my old mate Bob Coker. Most readers will remember that Bob had a falling out with little boy Donny a few yrs ago over Tate's vile and foul emails to Bob. I didn't agree with Bob's actions, but he removed little Donny boys name from The Casualty List, and then broadcast it to the Veteran community that Tate was no longer on The Casualty List..
All hell broke loose. Firstly from little Donny boy himself. The emails became more vile and threatening, the language not fit for broadcast. Then the VVAA stepped in with it's 2 bob worth followed by a host of ESO's stating that the authenticity of The Casualty List will be put in doubt.
Bob and I sat down and had numerous beers discussing the subject. I must admit I had trouble keeping up with him. Finally Bob saw reason and agreed to insert Donny boys name back on the list. So, low and behold Tate's name reappeared on The Casualty List 6 days after removal. Well done Bob.
Now, after a couple of years down the track Tate still maintains that his name is not on the List................

From Tate's site.........................
"You will not find the name of Don Tate on that list- despite the fact that I was wounded in action with 7 Platoon, “C” Company, 9RAR on the 19th July, 1969; subsequently hospitalised for more than two years; and in full receipt of government war pensions and benefits as a consequence.

Why aren’t I on that list?

Well, simply, Coker and I had a disagreement, and he doesn’t like me. So, in a fit of pique, this former Engineer Sergeant publicly declared that he “had deleted” me from the list as punishment for upsetting him.  He reckons “everyone in Australia knows I was wounded” so my name doesn’t have to be on his personal list!"

Funny, I found his name tonight.

It looks like Tate is still the biggest liar in the Veteran community.

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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday23February2011 »

A Bullshitter Extrordinair. One of the few capable of slithering UNDER a snake's belly.
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday23February2011 »

“Tate was part of an illegally created Australian platoon that had witnessed what was called a sapper's funeral" e.g. an atrocity where Viet Cong were slaughtered brutally, some murdered despite the fact that they had surrendered “To get rid of the witnesses, his unit was sent by the Australian "higher ups" on an ambush where 40 men faced 800 of the enemy, a "set up" designed to erase all the witnesses of the previous massacre.”

Tate in his (fictional) autobiographical book has convinced a gullible reviewer that Tate’s Commanding Officers’ deliberately set out to murder forty members of the Defence and Employment Platoon from HQ 1st Australian Task Force to shut them up. Incidentally we all know that Tate was not at the Thua Tich ambush referred to. Tate put himself into that action by altering official Australian War Memorial photographs.

These latest words prove Tate’s arrogance, ignorance, dishonesty and lack of integrity.  That which is written above is a despicable accusation against the very soul of the Australian Army in Vietnam, it mirrors the extent of the corruption of Tate’s mind and how little he cares about how his words affect decent veterans.

He exhibits the traits of a pathological liar, who will say and do anything to achieve his personal desires; at the very least he is experiencing confabulation (Filling in memory gaps by fabricating information or details).

Tate is forever crying foul in relation to what has been said about him, however what has been said about him is in direct response to the scurrilous lies, innuendo, corruption and conspiracy theories about the Australian Defence Force put forward by him to the Australian media over many years.


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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday23February2011 »

From Amazon.com

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Initial post: Oct. 26, 2010 3:55 PM PDT
Bernie Weisz says:
A Message from the author...a personal friend of mine:

Should any Americans be interested in purchasing a copy of my book, they can contact me directly via email:

warvet_69@yahoo.com
I have a web site: www.dontate.info

Signed copies (you can tell me what you want me to write) will cost $US 55, which includes postage and packaging,

and remember, it is a large, heavy book!

You may want to read the rest of the comments here

http://www.amazon.com/review/R15LP0L0IIQMAU/ref=cm_aya_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1741962099#wasThisHelpful

Also, this is an extract from a review of the War Within from Paperbackswap.com

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The body broke in two, and the deceased man's intestines landed all over Tate's boots, causing him to

instantly regurgitate. The smell of death is just as strong to Tate today as it was forty years ago. Four percent

of men involved in combat in Vietnam were wounded. Tate was one of those, getting a machine bullet through his

hip joint. Without spoiling the plot, Tate was part of an illegally created Australian platoon that had witnessed

what was called a "sapper's funeral" e.g. an atrocity where Viet Cong were slaughtered brutally, some murdered

despite the fact that they had surrendered. To get rid of the witnesses, his unit was sent by the Australian

"higher ups" on an ambush where 40 men faced 800 of the enemy, a "set up" designed to erase all the witnesses of

the previous massacre. However, Tate survived, and after a two year hospitalization, recovered only to find out

that all mention of his wartime service and his unit were "mysteriously and suspiciously" erased to cover for

those responsible.

The complete review can be found here

http://www.paperbackswap.com/War-Don-Tate/book/1741962099/

Compare this review with the one at Amazon (It's at the top of the page before the comments)


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« Reply #54 on: Tuesday22February2011 »

All together now, one, two three. It's feel sorry for Tate day, and we want you all to send him a sympathy card, bouqet of flowers or box of chocolates. The poor laddie has had it soooo tough and has such a terrible time in the community that we think that is the least we can do.

IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT YOU WILL SEE WHY

* poortate.doc (242.5 KB - downloaded 680 times.)
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« Reply #53 on: Sunday20February2011 »

I would take no notice of anything McKenzie says. That low life is motivated by gutter tactics, lies, fakery, jealousy and ego. He just has to be the centre of attention and will do and say anything to get his name up in lights.

Now I kept a document which the aussie digger sent out years ago about the lying, fake behaviour of McKenzie and kept it for a rainy day---and this looks like the rainy day. I have attached it to the end of this posting. Macho mischievous maker McKenzie used to go into the aussie digger forum and use a variety of fake names, aliases etc and you can read all about that in the doc.

McKenzie is so frigging bright he mortgaged his house to set his son up in business, his son went bust and McK lost the family home. Duh. Oh well that's our super intelligent McKenzie for you.

Doc attached now

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« Reply #52 on: Sunday20February2011 »

Keep digging Tate. One day, just one day, you might stumble on who I am......mind you seeing as I have multiple personalities according to you that will make your work that much harder  Grin
 
If Tate wasn't so tragic and sick he would be endlessly laughable. Mind you we have had many laughs over the last few years at Tate's and the galahs expense.
 
Apologies to Keith Tennent but we feel this spew from Tate, probably written by his understudy Wiltshire, is needed to show what a vile sub human Tate is.
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« Reply #51 on: Sunday20February2011 »

It appears that Donnie Tater has been released from Hospital. It was heavily rumored around the traps that he had spent time being assessed by Mental Health in Wollongong, and that he had been held over untill they balanced his medication. Unfortunately the Mental Health Team were unable to hold him there untill they had finished the evaluation.  It is rumored he did book him self out. 
It is a wonder he isn't under a compulsory detention order from the Mental Health Team, after dropping his pants in front of those school children, bashing an old age war hero who is an invalid pensioner, and making all sorts of scoliosis accusations against any one and every one be it an individual or an organisation.
How ever his latest ramblings and totally unfounded accusations against another person are listed here under. You may notice how Donnie Tate uses and refers to others in a lower class economic structured slum wallowing way, then accuses the victim of doing it.  Very interesting that is. A true sign of mental deficiency and paranoia. Just maybe Donnie Tate is getting very close to the edge and is beginning to resent those who know his true background.
More to follow.........
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From: Donald Tate
To: Allen Petersen
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:56 AM
Subject: Fw: TENNENT'S (SHIT HAPPENS) WEBSITE COMMENTARY.

I refer to Brian McKenzie's comments about a "Keith Tennent", below, and I couldn't help but wonder ..........
 
If it's the same Keith Tennent who hides behind the pseudonyms of 'Spartakus'; 'Zion'; and 'Cassius' (and others) on the AVM web site?
(If it is, I must ask.....Is his use of multiple pseudonyms a reflection of his perverted personality, or is he just trying to pretend the AVM has more contributors than it really does, and he gets off pretending that pig-sty actually has something of significance to offer to veterans? )
Could it be the Keith Tennent who does his dirtiest work at night, who lacks the smallest amount of intestinal fortitude- and must always hide behind cute pseudonyms, especially the one universally recognised as a gay icon- "Spartacus"?
Could this be the same Keith Tennent who was a former artilleryman, discharged early from the Corps (or was it drummed out of the Corps?) for sordid behaviour?
Are you the Keith Tennent who runs the "Aussie Digger" website- pretending he actually is a "digger", and thinking that there are folk out there who actually are interested in the opinions of a convicted pervert?
Is this the Keith Tennent who attracts like-minded perverts to the AVM web site- some of whom may not be aware of his dirty past?
Is it the same Keith Tennent who sent out that slanderous email about me in 2008- pretending it was from the non-existent "Michael McInnes", and made all sorts of comment about me as if he was some military guru, instead of a disgraced former sergeant of artillery?
Is it the Keith Tennent who lives in a hovel in Rockhampton, with next to no assets, according to legal advice?(What would a Google search show, eh Keithie?)
Surely it isn't the same Keith Tennent named in a sworn Statement to Townsville Police in 1975 by the mother of a nine year-old boy who had been anally raped? (Yes, Keithie boy, I have a copy of that Statement...! So do certain politicians, and media outlets and commentators right in their hot little hands, at this very minute!)?
Is he the Keith Tennent who requested of General Cosgrove that 'mitigating factors' for his personal indiscretions be allowed into his service history (Yes....I have a copy of that letter Keithie boy, and the response from the good General's office....!)?
Don't tell me it's the Keith Tennent who reportedly suffers PTSD as a result of his artillery position being over-run for "days on end", resulting in fierce "hand-to-hand combat with Japanese soldiers".....leaving "bloodied bodies" laying everywhere- and actually convinced some fool of a psychiatrist that the drivel was real?
Is it the same Keith Tennent who used to have the ears of some politicians and senior ESO leaders till they realised that it wasn't a dog turd they'd stood on, but Tennent's character they could smell?
Is it the very same Keith Tennent who seems to have a fascination with penises, and their size? (compensating Keithie?)
And could it possibly be the Keith Tennent who shares a common bond with Steve Gower of the War Memorial (ex-Arty) and acts as a 'postman' for that ex-general when the good general can't find any AWM letterheads to use, or a phone?
Could it possibly be the Keith Tennent whose service history is locked away from prying eyes by the National Archives, while that of other veterans is openly available? (Now why would that possibly be, Keithie boy?)
If it is the Keith Tennent I'm referring to, what's the bet he is as financially bereft as he is bereft of any integrity, or decency?
Is the picture (attached) you- Keith Tennent, and if it is, I can't help but wonder, given your character- how many of those medals you're wearing are fake?
And a question- if you are who I think you are, Tennent, is your family aware of your sordid past, and your current dirty activities?
And if you are the Keith Tennent I'm referring to, a final question- how many investigations do you think are currently underway into your activities, in respect of veteran vilification, and other filth?
And again, if you are the Keith Tennent who calls himself "SPARTACUS" and "ZION" and "CASSIUS" etc, etc- you are in error if you believe various agencies can't track you down. Colmer found that out. And so will that gutless Francis Grady.
 
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Read the reason why AVM was created under the heading "Welcome to our web site".  Tate is part of the Mad Galah mob. Most of the other vicious conspiracy theorists from the Mad Galahs have disappeared, when they are extict this web site will have achieved its objective and will close.

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I am not sure I can come on line and read this tripe from Tate and the war that seems to ensure from his diatribe each time.  Why cannot we just ignore the stupid prick and discuss issues relevent to returned men.  This waste of space, legend in his own lunchbox is annoyiing most veterans I am sure......Regards Blue
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My Granddad told me that empty barrels make the most noise.  The amount of noise coming fromTate must mean his head is a void.
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In relation to the latest from Steel.

On 10th February 2011 Tate produced another epic  but irrelevent defence against information published about him from the Veteran community.

He finishes off his diatribe with these words

"BUT IT DOES LEAD TO THIS ONE FINAL POINT- when one considers the attention I've received from the maggot minority within the veteran community, one needs to ask.....................WHAT IS THE MILITARY 'ESTABLISHMENT' HIDING THAT HAS RESULTED IN SUCH SPECIAL ATTENTION?"

To the best of my knowledge "The Military Establishment" (whatever that is) has had no involvement in the disclosure of Tate's cupboard full of Pecadillos.

Tate is defending himself against the wrong accusations. The reason he is hated by the majority of decent veterans is because of his accusations of corruption, dishonesty, atrocities and "cover ups" by Defence personnel and Institutions both during the time of his service and to the present.

The accusations against him that have emerged about his personal life, and his defence of those accusations are of no interest to me.

He has a lot to say about his 4RAR service, but we believe that most 4RAR ex servicemen from his era would rather spit on him than shake his hand.

Veterans of all ranks who served in Vietnam know that there was no conspiracy or corruption by Officers or anyone else during the Vietnam war.  His claims of the expunging of his mythical 2nd D&E Platoon and personnel Service Records, general corruption and wide spread atrocities are plain and simple lies perpetrated by Tate in the same way that he altered official photographs from the Australian War Memorial to place himself at the battle of Thua Tich.

Make up your own mind about Tate and his accusations about institutionalised corruption.  The stuff about his personal life may be of  interest to some, particularly those he has named as homosexual, pedophiles,  drug dealers and murderers but it all belongs in the Red Herring box.

Tate is a hated man because of his stupid conspiracy theories and will remain so until the day he expires.  Now read the pages of irrelevent guff that Tate has written about himself.

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    From: Allen Petersen
    To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
    Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:09 PM
    Subject: Author, Don Tate's Final Explanations

    From: Donald Tate
    To: Allen Petersen
    Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:21 PM
    Subject:  Author, Don Tate's Final Explanations

    Veterans and others....
    I have been down this route before, to no avail.
    But for the last time, I'll try again, simply because there are maggots who would still try and degrade my service history, regardless of how much validating evidence I provide.
    Truth is, between the official documentation, letters from those I served alongside, newspaper accounts, and original colour film, I have probably more proof and validation of my war service than most others!
    Nevertheless, despite the evidence already provided, despite the fact that men I served with have verified my service, the maggot element within the veteran community aren't interested in the truth. They will believe only what they want to believe.
    All that matters is that they try and pull me down. Still playing their little games under some pretence of 'exposing' me as a fraud, or wannabe etc etc, while they haven't got the guts to reveal their own service histories, if any. I have no doubt that some of those who ridicule me saw no action themselves, whatsoever.
    Just big talkers.
    It's what little men do best though- pulling others down makes up for their own inadequacies.
    Fact is, despite the rantings of the cowards, there are two things they can't dispute:
    - that while they hide in private, I have spoken in public on 144 occasions, and
    - while they hide behind pseudonyms, I always put my name to every piece of correspondence
    I think those two facts alone, speak volumes.
    Still, even though I've done all this before, I'vbe had to trawl through AVM droppings to gather the materials to take action against one or two. And in doing so, I see the cretins are now mutating, and a few new nutters are making comment about things they have no knowledge of.
    So I'll  go down the path this one more time.
    The simple facts are these:
     
    MY SERVICE HISTORY (supported by 46 mins of colour, movie footage on INFANTRY Operations, and even on leave in Vung Tau):
     
    On arrival in Vietnam as an infantry reinforcement (Dec 23rd 1968) , I spent three weeks acclimatising in the Reinforcement Unit- 1ARU.
    During that time, I was fined on two occasions:
    - $10 for losing my ID
    - $10 for having a dirty rifle
    I never made those mistakes again during the next seven and a half months in country.
     
    My first unit- 4RAR:
    - On being posted to 4RAR, I was immediately taken to "D" Company, in the field, along with Ptes Sullivan, Sillence and Brady on the 27th January, 1969
    - I served in 10/12 Platoons with "D" Company 4RAR from late January to mid-May 1969, always as a rifleman, and in all capacities, except carrying the M60
    - mostly, I was the 'number two' on the M60 machine-gun to Brian Holborow (and the stupid suggestion that I couldn't strip and re-assemble it as the maniac, Ted Colmer likes to tell everybody is negated by that very fact. Holborow made sure I knew that weapon inside out, and my section-commander Tom Douglas wouldn't have accepted anything less. Infantrymen would also note that the 'number two' on the gun is a relatively important position in a platoon, responsible for taking over those duties in the event the gunner was taken out)
    - as far as I know, my platoon commanders were Lt Sillar and Lt Bleechmore (I think Bleechmore is on my film)
    - with those platoons (I always remained with the same section, with the same 10 men or so, despite the change in platoon title from 10Pl to 12Pl) I experienced the full range of infantryman experience (as attested to by those men from that section- Brian Holborow; Garry Winchester; Peter Margetts; Greg Foley; Steve Pattison etc) including two traumatic bunker assaults; ambushes; small contacts; carrying out dead bodies; and burying the dead. If I didn't do those things, then it follows that the service histories of those other men are lies as well!
    - after the second bunker assault (where me and two others were trapped in front of the foremost VC bunker) I captured the air strike by US Phantoms the morning after, on movie film....you don't get much closer to the real war than that!
    - on just one occasion (and it occurred in a relatively safe, 'switching-off' area), I left the bolt out of my rifle, and was made scout for a short time as 'punishment' (I freely gave full details of this minor matter in my book, "The War Within", much to the delight of the fools who now use that honesty as a tool)
    - when I was familiar with the men I was serving alongside, they allowed me to record various aspects of that time in 4RAR on colour movie film, and recorded me alongside them, as well (when I appear on film, those images were invariably captured by Brian Holborow or Garry Winchester) and security was never compromised in doing so.
    - at no time was I ever sent from the field as the result of a transgression or incompetence, other than for an ear infection which was rectified in two days
    - when the 4th Battalion was RTA, I was transferred to HQ Company under Major George Pratt along with another 40 or so other riflemen who had reinforced the battalion during its tour, but hadn't served the minimum six months required before being allowed to return to Australia. I had no qualms about that.
     
    My second unit- HQ Company 1ATF (in the 2nd D&E Platoon)
    - since there was a D&E Platoon already in place in HQ Company, under Lt Ray (Mick) Woolan, and there being more men available than was required, Major Pratt formed us into a "2nd D&E Platoon", and named it as such (Pratt has verified this in writing, as has the platoon's first commander, Lt Barry Parkin)
    - at this point, Major Pratt chose four men (out of the 40) for sedentary duties (clerks/ drivers etc etc) and I was not one of them (For those able to read a simple Routine Order, see the attachment which lists the riflemen who arrived in HQ Company, and clearly states which men were chosen for duties other than infantry activity. They were: Pte Edmonds (driver); Ptes Hyde, Clark and Millar (to Mortar Platoon), and Pte Mc Ewan (as clerk, Admin)
     
    * NOTE: - Prior to my joining the Army, I had been employed as a clerk in the QLD Public Service, so if I had been as deficient an infantryman as the cowards suggest, then Major Pratt would've chosen me for one of those sedentary positions that needed to be filled. But he didn't.)
    - I served as a rifleman in that 2nd D&E Platoon for the next six weeks until it was disbanded- and was always in the field with them
    - despite there being no official documentation or even oral accounts of the existence or activities of that platoon, I was the only member of that platoon who wrote about it, and what it did during those six weeks- and have done so since 1970
     
    * NOTE:- although no records existed of any such "2nd D&E Platoon", I fought to have the platoon officially recognised for more than three decades, and it was successfully prosecuted in 2008 after the Army History Unit examined all the evidence placed before it. The suggestion that the entire Army History Unit (led by Col Bill Houston) as well as politicians like the Hon Dr Mike Kelly and the Hon Jennie George were duped somehow, defies comment.
     
    - when that platoon was disbanded in mid- July 1969, I was re-posted to the 9th Battalion, as a rifleman, along with most of the others from the 2nd D&E Platoon (a few were retained in HQ Company and transferred to the generic D&E Platoon which Major Pratt referred to as "best suited for kitchen duties".) Edward (Ted) Colmer was one of those!
     
    My third Unit- 9 RAR
    - arriving in the 9th Battalion, I was immediately placed into 7 Platoon, "C" Company as a rifleman, with no suggestion of being anything other than a rifleman
    - Unfortunately, I was not recorded on the battalion's Roll before I was wounded. This had nothing to do with me. It was an administrative error by Ordinance staff and has caused me considerable angst over the years
    - I served just on a month or so with that battalion before being wounded (again, serving in a section of just seven or eight men for just a short period)
    - the first week or so was spent at The Horseshoe working with an ARVN force
    - in mid-July, "C" Company was deployed to Long Khanh Province
    - in a platoon which was under strength (my section usually only had six men) I served variously as scout, 'number-two' on the M60, and even caried the M60 on one occasion
     
    * NOTE: One of the more responsible positions in an infantry platoon is that of the M60 gunner (there were three in every platoon.) In the movie extract attached, I am seen carrying the M60 as 7 Platoon returned to the Company position following an overnight patrol. Those who might suggest this was staged need to understand a couple of points:
            - no Private soldier (and especially not some new reinforcement to the platoon) in the jungle, at war, could dare suggest to his platoon commander that he wanted to stage anything whatsoever - let alone carrying one of the platoon's more potent weapons
            - and how was that footage of 7 Platoon returning from that patrol actually captured on my camera? Simple- with a little forethought. Before leaving on that patrol the day before, I asked a member of either 8 or 9 Platoon if he'd record us returning (providing we were all in one piece) - and he did so, positioning himself at the gun position
            - that piece of film (showing many members of the 7th Platoon alive) is the only movie footage of 7 Platoon on operations in Vietnam, and is invaluable. I have attached it to this email. I am the soldier carrying the M60, and removing my hat as I stepped over a log
     
    July 19th, 1969:
    - my platoon had two contacts with the enemy on the one day: engaging a couple of VC near a stream about mid-day; and then, following a trail that led away from that stream, walking into a Viet Cong ambush in a bunker system on the late afternoon of the 19th July
    - what happened that night was incorrectly recorded in the 9th Battalion's account, and this was acknowledged by one of its authors, Lt Mick Mummery last year in a statement to the veteran community. It took some considerable courage from Mick Mummery to do so, and is a measure of that man. It is why he is so highly regarded within 9 RAR. The other author of that particular account, Lt Guy Bagot, gave himself quite a rap in it, and has never been man enough to rectify his version of events in the years since. It is also a measure of that man that he hasn't done so
    - I am recorded in the Infantry Narratives as having been wounded on that night with 9RAR, along with the other ten men (See Attachment)
    - what actually transpired was that the first section into that ambush (led by section-commander, Andy Ochiltree) were all killed or wounded within minutes
    - my section (I was the scout then) was ordered into that killing field to provide support for that first section, and I led the way over a rise in the track, into it
    - about 30 metres in, and under fire from the entrenched enemy bunkers, Pte Walker (who was behind me) was hit in the shoulder and hands, and then I was wounded, running towards the bunkers
    - the bullet shattered the hip joint, spun down my leg, and was removed some 30 cms down the thigh. The site of the wound, and the trajectory of the bullet precludes any notion that I was hit in the back, or going backwards as some would like to believe!
    - along with three others (Walker, Nixon-Smith and Ochiltree) I was taken out that night by US chopper (as verified by hospital records)
    * Note: Andy Ochiltree was awarded the Military Medal for gallantry that night. Recently, I asked him to comment about the discrepancies between the "official" version as it appeared in the 9th Battalion's record of its tour of Vietnam, and what really went down, as I describe in "The War Within". This was Andy Ochiltree's response:

     

    Don

                   I was in C Coy 9RAR from when it first formed in Woodside. I was always very aware that my section never had any casualties (war caused!) whilst in Lt Bagot’s Platoon.

                   Whilst I was at the Horse Shoe, I was reduced in rank and sent on convoy protection as "punishment". I returned and was moved within C Coy to Lt Osborn’s Platoon as a Private. It was probably about the time you came to the unit. I must have only been in there a few days when we went out on that Op to Long Khan Province . The rest is "history" however inaccurately it is recorded. Those that reported the "facts" were probably not out the front, and rely on second hand information. Same, same the 2nd D&E Platoon, and in every conflict.

                  Don, we agree, totally, on what happened on 19 July, ‘69 but I saw my side (no one else did) and you saw it from your angle. Those that choose to differ are not in a position to contradict or discredit anyone. They are acting on exaggeration or hearsay or trying to justify their own ill-informed beliefs.

                   We have both suffered, and still do, and will do to the end. I was the cause of Ray Kermode's death and everyone’s injuries, including your own. Lt Osborne says I was only doing what I was ordered to do, but I chose to lead the company into an obvious bunker system with Kermode behind me. Ray knew as well as I did what was about to happen, and I tried to protect him by swapping places with him as scout.

                   We both went out in the same USAF Dustoff chopper that night by jungle penetrator/litter with the same black dude hauling us in. Some do not remember this. Even Osborne did not recall this fact. However what I am trying to say is that records are not perfect, and "facts" are seldom totally accurate.

                   That is all history.

                   No one ever asked me my version, other than that someone (unknown) who asked me many years later what happened, and then retold the story to you, stating that he was with Ray Kermode when Kermode said, "Leave me, I'm done for" as I was trying to bandage his shoulder with a shell dressing.

                I could go on but I won’t.

                Don, you have dug yourself into a hole with a pack of (maggots), and there are plenty out there who have nothing better in their lives (what’s left of them!) than to drag you down to their level. Rise above them...ignore them and talk to me, your family and write a new book!!!  There are people who have "been there and done that" and there are those who would like to think they did.

                Take care and "sleep easy" my friend

                Best Regards

                Andy Ochiltree MM (Captain)

     

    (Note that I added his eventual rank and MM to the account above. Andy was also one of the worst wounded that night. And I have never blamed Andy for my injuries. It was just the way it was.)

     

    So......after seven and a half months of infantry duties, my war was over.

     

    HOSPITALISATION

    I was a casevac to the Field Hospital at Vung Tau where the initial surgery was carried out, then 4 days later, the long trip home by Hercules. I arrived home much worse than when I left, due to the nature of the wound. This wasn't the case with every wounded man, and the nursing staff did their very best.

    I spent 18 months in the Military Hospital at Yeronga, then another six months or so at Greenslopes Repatriation Hospital.

    Over the years, I have read interesting comments about my wounds and their consequences, from men who weren't physically wounded themselves, but believe they have a profound right to opine how a man should react to such wounds, and those years of hospitalisation.

    But these are the facts:

    - only 3% of men were actually physically wounded in the war, and only about half of those again, were actually wounded in combat (as opposed to accidents, murder, disease, falling over logs etc etc.) That puts me in a very small percentage of men.

    - and of that small percentage of men, very, very few of them spent more than two years in hospital like I did (the best years of a life)

    I spent so long in hospital that by the time I discarded my plaster cast, the Rotary Club's scheme that gave wounded men a week's holiday at the Gold Coast had come and gone, and I missed out.

    Those who mock me for the extent of the wounds and that period of hospitalisation could have no understanding of the damage it did. And I realise that no matter what I say, their opinion won't change.

    Usually, they trot out the old, "...others were wounded worst...." line, as if that validates their stand.

    They think I have no right to record how that period of hospitalisation affected me. Too bad.

    Writing those experiences down isn't wallowing in it. It's a valid exercise for anyone suffering such trauma.

    The point I always make, but which apparently escapes many, is that those wounds profoundly altered my life- yet, I spent my life overcoming them.

    I never became a drunk like so many others did (including those who never saw enemy action.)

    I never relied on drugs (like so many others have) other than pain killers.

    I worked as long as I could (when many others took the soft option of opting for an early pension)

    I played representative cricket as a fast bowler, and set Association records as such, defying the nature of the disabilities.

    I gained the HSC in 1975 as a mature-aged student- with passes of 99% in English; 95% in History; 89% in Geography; and 60% in Economics; .

    I graduated from Teacher's College in 1979, second in my class, with the notation, "Meritorious Academic Record".

    Rather than take advantage of the social security net, I knocked back the full war pension in 1970 so I could work for as long as I could.

    I contributed to my community in the area of sport for three decades, and in the construction of the Vietnam Veterans Commemorative Walk at Albion Park Rail.

    I wrote three books, and even invented a board game- "QUIZ-KING" (made by John Sands.)

    Then, wrote "The War Within" (published by one of the country's most prestigious publisher, Murdoch Books) which is now approaching sales of 15,000- and which has received excellent reviews from intellectuals and veterans (with the exception of some malcontents, and a green-eyed minority who can't write.)

    Got stabbed in the back by a 'thrill-stabber' in 1999 in Brisbane- one of some six members of the public stabbed in similar fashion over a three-week period.

    Was bashed with a steel bar protecting schoolgirls from an intruder in 1992. And there was other trauma to deal with along the way.

    That's a lot to deal with, and I know that there are some who are unable to deal with the smallest of trauma in their lives, but what I did was RISE ABOVE the disabilities the war left me with, and those other traumas from civilian life.

    I refused to be a victim.

    Something so many others from that war couldn't do.

     

    COMMENTS MADE CONCERNING MY PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LIFE

    I should not have to do this, but given the nature of some of these comments, will respond on this last occasion.

     

    - that I have little to do with those veterans I served alongside..............well, that's true to some extent. But let's look at the facts:

                - I served in four units for relatively short periods of time (1 month; 3months; 6 weeks; and about three weeks.) Such fractured war service precludes making 'real' mates. I doubt if many would understand this, especially those men who stayed in units for long periods and inculcated that notion of 'espirit de corps'. Many reo's feel the same.

                - Having been wounded and spending so long in hospital obviated any immediate contact with men from the 4th and 9th Battalions who continued on with their own service, and lives, while I remained hospitalised. In relation to the 9th Battalion, not only had I been with them a very short time, but of my section, three of us were wounded and disappeared from the battalion immediately, so how was I supposed to maintain any contact with any of them? Didn't even know their names.

                - nevertheless, despite not really 'knowing' too many of those men from those two battalions (or the 2nd D&E Platoon) I am in regular contact with quite a number of them (as obvious above, with Andy Ochiltree) and have other friendships with many other veterans I've met along the way. It's enough for me.

     

    What's more, I actually had a life after Vietnam. The war was but one brief period in my life. It doesn't define me. I have other friendships that go back more than fifty years; there are those I attended teacher's college with; fellow teachers I taught alongside; and locals I've played sport with etc etc.

    So I don't need to hold hand on a regular basis with fellow 'veterans', pissing in each others' pockets. Is that a crime, too?

     

    - that I  "dropped my pants in front of schoolchildren"..........NSW Police have advised that no such complaint was ever recorded or investigated

    - that I used the "belt" at school..............corporal punishment was abolished before I became a teacher, and was never used anyway (the cane was)

    - the suggestion of sexual impropriety whilst I was a teacher.......I coached girls' softball for a decade (see attachment) until my retirement, as well as many other sports. If there had been a hint of any such impropriety, I would never have been allowed near such teams. I also coached girls' cricket for another local high school afterwards, and regularly speak in high schools

    - that I am 'banned' from Stocklands Shopping Centre, Shellharbour.........I am not banned from any shopping centres- easily verified

    - that the Manager of Shellharbour City Council was involved in the awarding of my Australian Sports Medal to prevent my taking legal action against it.......the GM of that Council, Brian Weir, dismissed that absurdity, in writing

    - that I 'ripped off' funds in relation to the construction of the Commemorative Walk.....those funds were administered by the Vietnam Veterans Association based in Campbelltown and were never handled by me

    - that I am a 'criminal' as a result of the Greg Clark matter.......well, being found guilty of common asault might condemn me as such, but given that the Prosecutor in the matter volunteered a Section 10 (a 'non-conviction') and it being granted by the Court tells a story in itself

    - that I am a 'thug'.........until that recent incident concerning the 'cat' down here in Wollongong, I have never been involved in any violent matter as the aggressor, and the particular incident I was accused of is currently the subject of two investigations, including one by the State Attorney-General's Dept

    - that I have had four failed suicide bids.......the author of that piece, is the local village idiot down here in the Illawarra. He readily admitted to me once that he had established a simple methodology to secure the highest war pension for any veterans- suicide attempts. He admitted to having made three attempts himself, all false, but did score the pension he was after. He then put that methodology into stone, locally, and nationally. DVA is well aware of his machinations.

    - that I left my wife for an American woman, and left my family penniless...........absolutely baseless (those who have met Carole are free to ask her directly)

    - that I compromised my family's security in respect of investments...........entirely my business, but I do own substantial shares in various miners, and Cochlear

    - that I am a 'fraud' in respect of my entitlement to the highest war pension, and other benefits..........I have multiple physical disabilities, all verified by DVA, and orthopaedic specialists and those documents have been made available previously (but the x-ray attachment shows how my hip has served me for 40 years)

     

    FINALLY.............comments about me from some I've met along the way, who actually 'know' me:

     

    (a) from John Evans, a schoolmate of 55 years ago (and a former navy diver/ Vietnam vet) who attended the Eastgardens Library event:

    "Dear Don
    Make no apologies. You were delivering a synopsis of a hell of a cathartic experience. Few humans try to put meaning into their lives let alone attempt to write about it and then discuss it publicly. I was proud of you today. I wanted to yell out," I have known this man since kindergarden and he is the genuine article."
    The technical glitches were not even noticed. We were all so enthralled by you and your life that we did not see any faults. We listened to your words and were privileged to see the proof on photo and film. You allowed us to become a part of your honest assessment and you touched us. Thank you so much.
    Your mate
    John"

    (b) from Susan Willis, psychologist- a former student of mine from Dapto High:

    "I think you were a passionate, courageous, and caring teacher and I thank you for encouraging me."

     

    (c) from Jim Riddle, infantryman I served with in 4RAR and the 2nd D&E Platoon, and friend:

    "Don was to become a true and finer mate over the years, he fought for a fair deal for his comrades to the bitter end and was destroyed along with the units we were once so proud of...all destroyed by a few spiteful and angry veterans......(He was in error about one thing. I'm not 'destroyed'.)

     

    (d) from Garry Heskett, former detective in NSW, and a member of 4 RAR: "You have nothing to prove mate.  I have never doubted you as you know, but for the record - You have already established a number of eye witnesses, including first hand evidence in documentation and records produced that would withstand any prosecution attack.  They would be fools to ever take you on.  My advice is to ignore the fools Don, because, you have nothing to prove to them."

     And now that police action is imminent against one of the AVM maggots, it's the last time I'll say it.

    BUT IT DOES LEAD TO THIS ONE FINAL POINT- when one considers the attention I've received from the maggot minority within the veteran community, one needs to ask.....................WHAT IS THE MILITARY 'ESTABLISHMENT' HIDING THAT HAS RESULTED IN SUCH SPECIAL ATTENTION?

  After all, recently, one of Australia's most respected (and decorated) senior ex-officers- Harry Smith (of Long Tan fame) boldly declared that "senior officers falsified documents" during the Vietnam War.

    Yawn. So what else is new?

    FOR MORE INFORMATION AND ARTICLES OF INTEREST, GO TO:

    Don Tate
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Jesus is that goose still raving on. I am convinced he is a media tart and uses his rants to promote himself and his book/s.

The trouble is I don't know anybody who listens to anything he says. All Australia now knows what a conman and fraud Tate is, along with his mad galah mates.

Yaaawn.

Doesn't it get so tiring. And what a wonderful, fulfilling life this turd must have.....NOT. Oh and no matter how much you polish a turd it stays a turd.
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  On tates website on the 27 jan 2011, tate said
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However......I'm sick to death with the jealousy of the spiteful little men orchestrating this campaign- the paedophile from Rockhampton, the murderer from Mountain Creek, the Q-storeman from the ACT, and their piss-ant mates. Therefore, note this:

I no longer intend responding to the AVM Website. This is because the truth means nothing to them - just their own deceit, dishonesty, misrepresentation, untruths and vitriol. I see no point in wasting my time on worrying about, or responding to, what they have to say, when it is unmitigated untruthful malice to begin with.

So you don't intend responding eh? We live in hope that this is true.


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And whatever happened to all those other good ol' tough boys who were going to sort me out- like "Ruger 357"; and "Savage" and "Steel" and so on?

You're dreaming again tate, I challenge you or anyone else to show where I've ever made a statement that I would sort you out

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(Too late boys. The electronic eavesdropping has captured it all. Every word. Every page. Every thread. Every piece of crap. Every electronic footprint.)

Well glory be, now you really have me worried (NOT).You seem to forget, all your crap can be dragged out of your computer also.You can delete anything you like, reformat your hard drive, do what ever you like but with the right gear even I could drag stuff out of your computer that you thought was gone for good.Good try, but your idle threat works in reverse

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Apparently, prospective new members wanting to join the AVM, can't even register. Never know who you might let in, eh boys? Or who's been in there quite a while, keeping tabs

Do you honestly think that people were unaware that you had your 'spies' registered as members on the site. Which does fetch out another point. How hypocritical can you get, when you scream about the likes of me hiding behind an alias on this site, yet your own  "spies"are doing exactly the same thing. I could probably name a few of them but as I couldn't prove it I wont use any names. You're the only one who accuses people without proof. (Such as accusing Peter Maher of being Steel)

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I've also lodged a formal submission to nine significant senators and politicians across the country requesting either a Parliamentary Enquiry or a Royal Commission into the corruption of military records and other matters to do with the 2nd D&E Platoon. And about those high-flying ex-generals who associate with a known paedophile

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By December 31st this year, every significant federal politician in Australia will have received a document of some 25 pages
OK, name them, I'd like to follow up with them to see if they've received the document.
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« Reply #44 on: Thursday03February2011 »

I have seen a number of wall plaques from the D & E Platoon and they all have the words "Hawk Force" inscribed on them.

Tatoe head says it was "Sabre" or "Tiger" or what ever.

Can someone from D & E confirm this?
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as to my being "well-known" by local police.....that's simple. I taught a number of men and women who have become police officers, including an Inspector at Lake Illawarra Command, Ron Davis. He is now personally aware of comments and threats made about me on that web site by the maggots and cowards like Kenneth Taylor, Alan Price, and Frank Grady ("KD117") etc etc- and has requested I personally advise him of each development

Well I hope you inform him of the latest developements and comments made about you. Of course you will give him a copy of Your latest emails distributed by Petersen on your behalf.You know the one's I mean, the one's you sent out abusing a Peter Maher, who you claim is me, and I'm sure he'd love to know about your investagative skills in how you determined I was this person Maher. Personally I think he'd laugh in your face and dismiss you for the idiot you are.Don't forget to tell him about these comments.
 

Hey tate, been reading stuff on your website.Seems you got wounded in Vietnam (as if I didn't know, you tell everyone all the time). One of your complaints  and I quote your words "As well, by being flown straight from a war zone to a military hospital in Australia, I was denied that opportunity to unwind on the trip home by sea ." Now I don't know how long it took to fly you home, but I'm damned sure it would have been quicker than going by sea. Why do you think they flew you home? To get you to the best possible medical treatment as quickly as possible of course.  I wonder what you would have said if they had sent you by sea. That's easy to answer, you would have complained that they kept you waiting around on some boat at sea instead of getting you the prompt medical treatment you needed.

There will be more. Can't have all the guests sitting around with nothing to read.

Have you apologised to Peter Maher yet??? Be a man and admit you were were wrong. I know you're wrong and you know you're wrong and I'm sure there are others that know you're  wrong. So for once in your life admit it.

I forgot though, it takes a big man to admit to a mistake and that's just not you, is it ?

I would suggest that both guests and members alike, visit tates website and read for your selves his rubbish and pick out all the contradictions embodied in his fairy tales.



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« Reply #42 on: Saturday29January2011 »

Who said anything about it being an Asian woman?

The same picture is available from Google maps. Was that a critical error on the part of Google also ?

The police must be pretty slack, if they haven't fingerprinted the so called bloodied hand-print yet.




Who said anything about it being an Asian woman?

The same picture is available from Google maps. Was that a critical error on the part of Google also ?

The police must be pretty slack, if they haven't fingerprinted the so called bloodied hand-print yet.

You know I really couldn't understand how those three little comments could cause such a drama with tate.

The first is a simple enough query. Who said anything about an Asian woman ? I haven't been able to find any reference to an Asian woman, except by tate.

The 2nd one, about the pic. Well that pic as I've said is from google maps. Anyone but anyone can access it.  But I think there is a conspiracy, because google maps doesn't have a pic of my place.What a bummer.

Now the so called bloody handprint. You know I really laughed at that comment. I mean to say, fingerprinting a handprint sounds rather odd, but why would I say the police must be slack. Well tate, you refer to an incident on the 11th Jan,you say in an email dated the 19th Jan (some 8 days after a so called incident) that the handprint will be fingerprinted. Come on tate,IF there was an incident (which I doubt) the coppers would have fingerprinted the so called handprint already. ( I still can't stop laughing at fingerprinting a so called handprint)

By the way, why don't you tell us what transpired on the 11 th Jan, I'm sure everyone would be interested.



One last thing, I've already said it but Ï'll tell you again, I am not Peter Maher. In my books, you owe Peter Maher an apologiy.

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« Reply #41 on: Friday28January2011 »

It's very ancient history.
The article refers to the National President Sir William Keys. 
He finished up in that possie in 1986 and died in 2000.


Cavman we made that point. Our aim is to show Tate's duplicity goes back many years.
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« Reply #40 on: Friday28January2011 »

It's very ancient history.
The article refers to the National President Sir William Keys. 
He finished up in that possie in 1986 and died in 2000.
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« Reply #39 on: Friday28January2011 »

I very much doubt Tate's claim that a veteran threatened the safety of his family and kids. Delusions again. I could not see any veteran, of any era, going down that path. It's rubbish!

More of Tate's crap!
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« Reply #38 on: Friday28January2011 »

Hi readers.

AVM has received a very interesting email from one of our members. To read the email you will need to open the attachment at the end of this post. We have had to do up a word document to retain the integrity and context of the received email.

The member who sent the email used to work for the old KGB but saw the light and now works for ASIO.

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THE ATTACHMENT FOLLOWS.

One of the images in the word doc is hard to read. This is an easier read
http://members.tripod.com:80/warvet_69/reprisal.htm


* tatewarhero.doc (546.5 KB - downloaded 767 times.)
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday25January2011 »

Dear Donnie Boy,
Listen Old Fruit, I have advised you to seek medical advice regarding you mental health, if you can't understand that part of my communications then get some one who is educated to read it to you. As for the threats of Police Action and your friendship with particular Police Officers, may be they can also read this to you, and encourage you to get medical help for you delusional behaviour.

With your regard to broadcasting your daughters privet life on the Internet, I rest my case about your delusions and mental imbalance. I feel only a fool or some one with delusions of grandeur would go to that length. I am beyond understanding why you would do such a low despicable thing to an honest and respected member of the NSW Police Force. But then Donnie Boy, it is you that must justify your behaviour in the end to your Daughter.

I, Donnie Boy, do not regret any of the things I have done, said, or parts I have played in my past.
I will always treat others with the same respect they show me. So Donnie Boy, you pants dropping cowardly, piece of garbage crap, get your self a bloody medical examination before you do some thing worse to some child besides flashing you hair pimply ass at them. You are a resounding success as a maggot and Flasher. So don't go around accusing others of the things you envy for your self.


Self Praise is the lowest form of a reference any one can get, and you Donnie Boy have heaped accolades onto your self. You are a Fool, a Maggot, and a Bum Chaser. Just be proud of it and get on with a good Medical Examination.
Ken.T. Wink
P.S, Please don't spell my name wrong again. It up sets my dear loving mother.  Embarrassed
 
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« Reply #36 on: Tuesday25January2011 »

Tate is very sick man. THA has said so, and so have many others. Tate's continuous inputs here leave no illusions in my mind that he needs a lot of help. AVM has recommended this on a number of occasions but to no avail. For the record I worked with THA and I'm very proud to say that I know him as a warrior and a leader whom I would follow anywhere. For the record I know of many many people who would say the same. For the record I worked with D & E (there was only one D&E) and found in the main for them to be very good at their job. For the record I have seen death in my carrier, a fallen infantier who died on his first wedding anniversary. His family has never bittered like Tate. For the record I have seen wounded Aust. soldiers who never complained then and have not done so since. It destroys me to seen what is happening on this site with Tate's input. Don you do not know this but believe me you need some serious help.
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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday25January2011 »

Yep, and I'm still waiting for an answer to my question of the 19th.
"Who were all these coppers that you supposedly taught at school? "
Now a question like that shouldn't be too hard for a person who is an expert on just about everything, or should it?
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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday25January2011 »

Sadly Tate has been attacking innocent people again. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about that. Though we do empathise with those who have had their names dragged through the mud all because we have exposed him and his vile galah mates for what they are. Such is life, as Ned said. We are sure those named are big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves. Unlike Tate real Veterans are made of tough stuff.

Goodness we must admit though we have had some real belly laughs lately as criminal Tate tries his hardest to discover just who we are. Mind you he is a cunning shit and thinks that mud might stick if he keeps repeating himself. But boy oh boy, it has been fascinating to watch him screech, flounder and make a fool of himself again, something which he finds easy to do.

Keep guessing criminal. We do have some real fun watching it all.
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« Reply #33 on: Monday24January2011 »

My comments with regard to tates email are in red.

Hello to Peter Maher.......aka "STEEL" ......of the AVM:

 

and proud Secretary of the "HMAS Brisbane" Association....


 

CAN IT BE TRUE THAT THE GUTLESS MAGGOT WHO HIDES BEHIND THE PSEUDONYM, "Steel" AT THE AVM PIG-TROUGH, IS YOU?
Nope, it isn't true. I'm not Peter Maher
 

If it is, it's more evidence that (contrary to what you and your 'mates' think) your identities are slowly being identified by various authorities.
Well it's not true, so there's nothing to add

And personally, I just thought you might like to know that I know who you are.
If you know who I am,(and it's not Peter Maher)please enlighten me.

And if I know who you are........................guess who else knows?
You don't know who I am so I don't have to guess who else knows

And guess who else has already been identified by the authorities?
I'm not into guessing games so why don't you tell me

So much for the AVM's "security measures", eh?
Nothing wrong with AVM security

Now Peter, isn't it true that you used to hide behind the pseudonym "Steelcat", but dropped the "CAT" bit in recent months?
As I'm not Peter, I can't answer that

Perhaps you dropped the wrong bit.

"CAT" would have been more apt for an excuse of a 'man' like you are. Much more accurate.

But "STEEL".......? I guess it sounds real tough using a word like that to hide behind, doesn't it, Petie boy!

What are you compensating for? The fact that you claim to be a "Vietnam veteran" but never saw any action and despise those who actually did?
Unlike you Tate, I have the utmost respect for veterans whether they stayed behind the wire or went out beyond the wire. The cooks,clerks, storemen etc were all a neccessary part of the forces in Vietnam. Without them the army wouldn't be able to function


Saw a lot of 'action' in Vietnam aboard the HMAS Brisbane, did you? Tough going down there in the galleys playing "Ludo"? Washing the decks?
No, didn't see any action aboard the HMAS Brisbane. How could I, I was never in the Navy

I must ask......Have you scored yourself the TPI.....?
Is that a question for me or Peter? If it's for peter, how would I know?

Well, of course you would have. You operated out of Granville with the likes of that other fraud- Grady.
Never been to Granville in my life and I don't know Grady. By the way, what fraud are you accusing him of?

Did you follow the programme? You know....fake suicide attempt?.... St John of God?......learn all about PTSD?......off to Cremorne?
What program was that?

And do your mates at the "HMAS Brisbane" Association know who and what you really are?

Do they know about your well-hidden, secret life?
I don't have any mates at the HMAS Brisbane Association. Don't belong to it, never been in the Navy

And what about your family, maggot? Are they aware of what you do in secret? Do they know what a filthy, piece of low-life you are?
My family know everything about me. I have nothing to hide.

Do they know about your association with that paedophile from Rush St, Rockhampton- "Cassius"? Or is it "Zion"? Or both?
You claim you and the authorities know who the people are on this site.If that is the case, why don't you name this so called paedophile? No, that would leave you open to litigation wouldn't it? I don't know anyone in Rockhampton anyway

And that the fraudster from St Mary's- Billing, is another associate?

And that the weak-gutted, foul-mouthed, big-noting little man, Alan Price in Brisbane is another 'mate' of yours?
Don't know Billing (what fraud are you accusing him of). I've heard of Alan Price,never met the gentleman so I can't claim him as a mate.

Birds of a feather, eh?

Oh, by the way, you cowardly slug, when I spoke at Blacktown Library and at St. Mary's a year ago- why didn't you show? Doonside is in they're backyard isn't it?

You could've met with me personally and shook my hand and said things to my face instead of hiding in the AVM pig-trough and slinging shit.
Well I sure as hell wouldn't travel interstate to listen to your rubbish and there's no way in the world I would shake hands with a person that has maligned good, decent veterans in the way you have with all your conspiracy theories.

But that would've taken a man to do that- and you're far from being a man, Maher.
As I've already said, I am not Maher, never have been, never will be.

Ah yes, chickens come home to roost.

You got away with it for a long time, "STEEL", but your turn has come.
Oh dear,is that a threat or a promise? When you know who I am, come knocking. At the moment though you are way of course.I am not Maher.

Don Tate

By the way, for some one who is so against people using aliases on a forum, why is it that on the forum feedback page on your website all the posts are posted by Anonymous? There's an awful lot of porn links on there also, along with medical stuff such as viagra.

 

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« Reply #32 on: Monday24January2011 »

Really, when it all comes down to the stark reality of life,  Tate is the vilest hypocrite that donned the green uniform...he takes out an AVO against an individual in Rockhampton and yet does exactly the same he accuses others of and this Rockhampton individual ....and even by aside references in his latest crap....

Tate you are a disgraceful and pathetic individual.  I doubt you have the backbone to attend the 4 RAR Re-Union......

and do us all a favour, send your Submission to AVM,  that you so proudlly claim is required to open the systemic corruption in the ADF, then and now...go on,  send it to us....
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« Reply #31 on: Monday24January2011 »

This is a copy of an email being distributed by Tate through mailman Petersen.

In it, he asks if I am a person by the name of Maher. The short answer to this is no. I am not Peter Maher, I am not the secretary of HMAS Brisbane Association and I've never been in the Navy.

tate, you're rambling again. You don't know who I am, the authorities don't know who I am, even the people who run this site don't know who I am.

If you want to go to the authorities claiming I'm Peter Maher, go ahead, you will be made to look the biggest fool in Australia when the authorities find out that you're wrong again.

I reiterate, I am not Peter Maher, never have been never will be. Try fishing somewhere else, the fish aren't biting this way, or better still, find yourself a good book to read and stop making wild accusations against decent veterans.

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Hello to Peter Maher.......aka "STEEL" ......of the AVM:
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and proud Secretary of the "HMAS Brisbane" Association....
CAN IT BE TRUE THAT THE GUTLESS MAGGOT WHO HIDES BEHIND THE PSEUDONYM, "Steel" AT THE AVM PIG-TROUGH, IS YOU?
If it is, it's more evidence that (contrary to what you and your 'mates' think) your identities are slowly being identified by various authorities.
And personally, I just thought you might like to know that I know who you are.
And if I know who you are........................guess who else knows?
And guess who else has already been identified by the authorities?
So much for the AVM's "security measures", eh?
Now Peter, isn't it true that you used to hide behind the pseudonym "Steelcat", but dropped the "CAT" bit in recent months?
Perhaps you dropped the wrong bit.
"CAT" would have been more apt for an excuse of a 'man' like you are. Much more accurate.
But "STEEL".......? I guess it sounds real tough using a word like that to hide behind, doesn't it, Petie boy!
What are you compensating for? The fact that you claim to be a "Vietnam veteran" but never saw any action and despise those who actually did?
Saw a lot of 'action' in Vietnam aboard the HMAS Brisbane, did you? Tough going down there in the galleys playing "Ludo"? Washing the decks?
I must ask......Have you scored yourself the TPI.....?
Well, of course you would have. You operated out of Granville with the likes of that other fraud- Grady.
Did you follow the programme? You know....fake suicide attempt?.... St John of God?......learn all about PTSD?......off to Cremorne?
And do your mates at the "HMAS Brisbane" Association know who and what you really are?
Do they know about your well-hidden, secret life?
And what about your family, maggot? Are they aware of what you do in secret? Do they know what a filthy, piece of low-life you are?
Do they know about your association with that paedophile from Rush St, Rockhampton- "Cassius"? Or is it "Zion"? Or both?
And that the fraudster from St Mary's- Billing, is another associate?
And that the weak-gutted, foul-mouthed, big-noting little man, Alan Price in Brisbane is another 'mate' of yours?
Birds of a feather, eh?
Oh, by the way, you cowardly slug, when I spoke at Blacktown Library and at St. Mary's a year ago- why didn't you show? Doonside is in they're backyard isn't it?
You could've met with me personally and shook my hand and said things to my face instead of hiding in the AVM pig-trough and slinging shit.
But that would've taken a man to do that- and you're far from being a man, Maher.
Ah yes, chickens come home to roost.
You got away with it for a long time, "STEEL", but your turn has come.
Don Tate
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« Reply #30 on: Sunday23January2011 »

And to think that Tate in his investigative venture has any evidence that me, Ruger357,  has made any comment on this site that constitutes electronic stalking, defamation or even something that resembles an offence, and all is fair comment anyway. 

I am waiting Tate, as are many others for your summons.  And I dont think I will be attending any 4 RAR Re-Union, simply as I was not in the Regiment, therefore not entitled to attend.  So much for your claims !!!

As you say yourself Don, all piss and wind.  Get a life Don, or has this totally consumed your life.  Anyway, how about sending AVM a copy of your expose for a Royal Commission...should make absorbing reading  !!!

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« Reply #29 on: Saturday22January2011 »

Sorry Tatoe Head,
 Before I moved out of Kanahooka in 95 and headed north, to outside Armidale, you were infamous. The kids in your class, when the belt "failed" and you were in your undies, those kids could not tell their school mates quick enough. And guess what? They couldn't wait to get home and tell their parents about the incident.

The parents told everyone else. So your Prosecutor, who you schooled, will have his own knowledge of the incident, as everyone did.

The mail order bride was American, not Asian.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday19January2011 »

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- I have never entertained the idea of running off with an Asian woman,

Who said anything about it being an Asian woman?

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the posting of a picture of my "shack" on the internet (it's actually a large four-bedroomed house) was a very silly act

The same picture is available from Google maps. Was that a critical error on the part of Google also ?

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.............and that bloodied hand-print that was left behind on the bus shelter.......it will be finger-printed!

The police must be pretty slack, if they haven't fingerprinted the so called bloodied hand-print yet.



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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday19January2011 »

Hey Donny Boy, lets put the boot on the other foot for a short while.
 
You have stated that; "I taught a number of men and women who have become police officers,".

OK Donny, name them......................
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday19January2011 »

The more I read, see and hear about Don Tate, the less I like like him. His latest ramblings are those of a psychotic fool. I'm far closer to Brisbane than Sydney.

What Tate can't understand is that the more shit he puts on other veterans and then puts himself in the public eye, the more he will cop. From what I have researched on him, he has stated so called facts that he has alluded as being factual when it is all based on rumour and his own psychiatric defects. Same as me, I've got em, I live with em and do my best. I don't go down his path though.

For Don Tate, I have not met any Vietnam veteran who has a kind word for you, sorry, you're the only one I have come across where everyone has the same attitude towards him.



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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday19January2011 »

Tate reminds me of the "threat" we used at school when we were abused etc. i.e. "Dont do that as my Dad is a cop". Who cares if he knows Police Offiecers, he is not the only one.

Do you really thing this piece of blubber will turn up at the 4 RAR reunion after what he did with Honda.

The man is a complete fool and yes Tate I know you are still looking for me - but parasites like you do not worry me.
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday19January2011 »

What is little Donny Tater Boy trying to do now Huh  Is he desperately attempting to make out he is one of "the good guys" by telling us he knows a couple of coppers Huh Big deal, so what?
Its time he took himself in hand, no, maybe he's been doing too much of that lof late, and booked himself in to a well established "nut-farm". I really feel for him.. Cry



From: Donald Tate
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Subject: avm COMMENTS ABOUT Don Tate


I refer to more of the gutless bullshit posted on the AVM web site about me...
- as to my being "well-known" by local police.....that's simple. I taught a number of men and women who have become police officers, including an Inspector at Lake Illawarra Command, Ron Davis. He is now personally aware of comments and threats made about me on that web site by the maggots and cowards like Kenneth Taylor, Alan Price, and Frank Grady ("KD117") etc etc- and has requested I personally advise him of each development
- having taught him at high school, and having been a Police Prosecutor, Inspector Davis knows more about me than anyone in respect of my teaching career (maggots may feel free to contact him)
- my daughter is a police officer, and having married twice, invited various police officers to those weddings- so of course they 'know me'
- I have played cricket with, and administered local sporting teams with many police officers 
- I have never entertained the idea of running off with an Asian woman, never left my wife for one, never jumped in front of a taxi, never jumped in front of a truck, never contemplated jumping off a bridge...and not one person could ever provide any evidence of same
- share purchasing is my business (as it is for every other man) but to suggest I purchased a particular share wishing for a pandemic that could kill my own kids and grandchildren is mind-boggling absurd
- I have asked 9RAR members to publicly acknowledge the circumstances of my wounding, once and for all
- I will be travelling to Brisbane for the 4RAR re-union, not for the hand-holding bullshit, but to see if Alan Price or "Ruger 357", or any of the other blowhards in that battalion have the balls to tackle me, face-to-face
- the posting of a picture of my "shack" on the internet (it's actually a large four-bedroomed house) was a very silly act, "Fergus", and goes hand-in-hand with what transpired on the night of January 11th this year...a critical error
- oh.............and that bloodied hand-print that was left behind on the bus shelter.......it will be finger-printed!
Finally- and let's not beat around the bush here......"SPARTACUS" is Keith Tennent from Rockhampton; "KD117" is Frank Grady (as well as "D371") and neither man could lay straight in bed.
 
Don Tate

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday16January2011 »

I don't think Little Donnie Boy realizes that to bring his whole Demented Illogical Fairy Tale out into the open sessions of court will be the unraveling of his lies, innuendos and accusations against others.  He has attacked good and innocent men from all persuasions. He has made outlandish accusations against organisations and individuals as well as branding all and sundry of being of bad and unsound character.  I think Donnie Boy should go and talk to a very good adviser before he jumps into the muck and mire of a resounding embarrassment for every one connected to him and his cause.

To be thought of as an idiot is a lot diffrent to proving you are an idiot, Donnie Boy!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday13January2011 »

Hi,
being a member of the "grey nomads" for a few years I have met quite a few Vietnam veterans who lost one or both legs to mines. Those who spring to mind are Bill Rolfe, Graham Edwards and Tim McCombe, plus many others. They are nature's gentlemen! If anyone has met them you will know what I am talking about.

Compare this whinging, bitching failure as Tate is to them, he is not even in the same the race as them. A goose of the highest order, failed soldier, failed teacher, failed everything, it must run in the family! Hello dad!
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday08January2011 »

Supernumary's!I may not have Tate's intelligence to get the spelling right, but I most certainly know the meaning. Tate doesn't!
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday08January2011 »

Tate disturbed? I'm home after my monthly trip to Brisbane to attend to medical stuff and other things. While there I met 2 veterans who used to live in Wollongong and had daughters attending Dapto High School.

They were ex Cav and AOD. Both Dad's refused to allow their daughters to attend Tate's class, they threatened removal to another High School.

The reason, apart from Tate's attitude towards the students, they told me, allegedly, that Mr Don Tate had a very unhealthy thing about the senior female students bra's! He used to fiddle with them (the bra straps) quite often, despite their protests.

I think the senior female students would consider themselves lucky that he did not have his slouch hat on at the time. So should Tate, he'd be pushing up daisies by now!

Tate puts shit on everyone else, the worm has turned scum bag!
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday08January2011 »

Donald Tate, a very disturbed and disgruntled Vietnam Veteran has sent demands to all Federal Politicians for a Parliamentary enquiry into systemic corruption, dishonesty and immoral behaviour by the Australian Defence Force and many Government Departments.

Decent Veterans know that Tate is a publicity seeking, mentally ill conspiracy theorist and his malicious accusations have no substance.

The foundation for his accusations is that the Defence Force formed a unit in Vietnam without proper authority and then corruptly expunged details from service records of those who served in the unit. In fact, Tate and the men concerned were in transit from an Infantry Battalion that was returning to Australia and they had not completed their twelve month tour of duty.

Whilst awaiting reallocation in Vietnam, they were posted to a holding unit which was a sub unit of the Headquarters 1st Australian Army Task Force (HQ 1ATF) the sub unit was known as the Defence and Employment Platoon (D&E Pl).  All soldiers held at the D&E Platoon were properly posted to HQ 1ATF.

The Commander of HQ 1ATF decided to use the surplus men as a group because they were Infantry trained and battle experienced.

The group was nick named by the men involved “The 2nd D&E Platoon” and that is the simple explanation. All members of the D&E Platoon were correctly and legally posted to HQ 1ATF and could be employed as seen fit by the Commander of HQ 1 ATF.

The surplus men in the grouping were only available to the Commander of HQ 1ATF until new postings were found for them.

Tate was posted to HQ 1ATF and employed in the D&E Platoon from 14 May 1969 to 25 June 1969 a total of 42 days. 

Before being posted to HQ 1 ATF Tate was a member of the 4th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment (4RAR) which returned to Australia before Tate had completed his twelve months service in Vietnam. On arrival in Vietnam of the 9th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment (9RAR) he was posted to that unit from HQ 1 ATF.


Full detail of Tate’s move from 4RAR through HQ 1ATF to 9 RAR can be viewed on the Department of Veterans Affairs Nominal Roll, see here:

http://www.vietnamroll.gov.au/VeteranDetails.aspx?VeteranId=1272110

In his demand for a Parliamentary enquiry Tate levels allegations of conspiracy and corruption within the following Government Departments:

The Australian Army in Vietnam
An incompetent Victoria Police Force
Federal Police and the ex military officers therein
Australian War Memorial
National Archives of Australia
Department of Veterans Affairs   
Vietnam Veterans Counseling Service
Various past and present Federal Ministers for Veterans Affairs
Department of Immigration

Tate’s ridiculous claims of corruption and dishonesty in the Defence Force and Government Departments were encouraged by two politicians, two ex senior Army Officers and a group of  Veterans known as the Mad Galahs.

These people are:

Ex army legal officer Major Mike Kelly now a parliamentary secretary in the Gillard government.
Jenny George MP for Throsby.
Brigadier Neil Weekes.
Brigadier George Mansford.
The Mad Galahs who are well known to Federal politicians for their ridiculous conspiracy theories and death threats.

If Tate’s Parliamentary enquiry were to ever get off the ground the above people should be required to give evidence, which would leave them sorely embarrassed.

Below are excerpts of words written by the above members giving support to Tate’s theories of conspiracy and corruption in the Defence Force other Government Departments and Government ministers of all political persuasions.

From Brigadier Neil Weekes

From: Neil Weekes [mailto:sealure2@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 8:32 PM
To: Barry Corse; remloc@optusnet.com.au; 'Donald Tate'; 'Richard Bigwood'; 'Kevin Lloyd-Thomas'; jimriddle311589@yahoo.com.au; 'eric pope'; 'Denis Manski'; 'Doug McGrath'; 'Adam Rainford'; 'Kay & Allan'; 'Jackie Morris'; 'Bernie Fitzpatrick'; 'andrew bigwood'
Cc: 'Dave Briggs'; 'John Graham'; 'Bernie'; bill.dobell@bigpond.com; 'Jim Wiltshire'; 'Paul Dignon'; 'Pam and Greg'; 'Allen Petersen'; 'Harry Kirkman'; 'Ron Francis'; 'Ted McEvoy'; 'BARRY GILBERT'; kbovill@iinet.net.au; 'Rob de Haas'; 'Frank Maloney'; 'John Cassidy'; 'Brian West'; 'Neville Bryant'; 'uwe janssen'; 'John Pronk'; 'Rod Bain'; 'Bob Elworthy'; dougformby@rslqld.org; 'SA RSL'; pobaramsay@bigpond.com; 'Ted Chitham'; 'VVAA. WA O'Dowd Jason'; 'Ron Coxon '; 'John Ryan'; vvfagran@bigpond.net.au; national.president@rsl.org.au; 'Moose Dunlop'; president@peacekeepers.asn.au; 'Michael Ryan'; chook126@bigpond.net.au; gtr15271@bigpond.net.au

Subject: nd D&E Platoon

G'day all,

As Barry has said, I too have been watching your fight for just recognition, with a great deal of anger and disappointment with the "system" that was supposed to look after all of us.  I have no problem with any Commander's decision with reassigning troops for a special task and he doesn't have to alter the Order of Battle to do that.  It is simply called "regrouping".  What dismays me is that the records do not record this "regrouping", its structure or its command and control arrangements.  Then for records not even to register who was in this 2nd D & E Platoon is a bloody disgrace.  No wonder you fellows have felt disowned.  George Mansford has said it better than I ever could, but keep going, sign those stat decs and someone write a book on the whole sorry episode.  As for gongs, well if they reopen Long Tan then they had better look into the actions of Jim Riddle and you fellows.  Be assured that there are many others out there who have been urging you on but not in a position to assist but just to say, "The truth will win"
Head up fellows, you have much more to puff your chest out than all of us.
Kind regards to all,

 Neil Weekes


Here also is a photograph of Weekes assisting Tate with his conspiracy theories in a visit to Canberra


 
Initially Tate went to his local politician Jenny George MP, the Federal Member for Throsby who was easily gulled by Tate and took the matter to The Hon Dr Kelly who was then Parliamentary Secretary for Defence Support in the Rudd Government and is now the Parliament Secretary for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry in the Gillard Government. As a politician and an ex Army Legal Officer, he made a statement, in writing, aiding and abetting Tate’s theories of conspiracy and corruption in the ADF and the Australian Government. Kelly’s statement is the main hook that Tate has hung his hat on, in his current demand for a Parliamentary enquiry.  This is what Kelly said:

From the Hon Dr Mike Kelly MP
 
on May 29th 2008, the Hon Dr Mike Kelly MP, Secretary to the Minister for Veteran Affairs, made a formal announcement, validating the platoon’s existence:
 “I would like to pay particular tribute to the courage and dedication of the men of the 2nd D&E Platoon. They were a team that was effectively born in battle, not having been formally raised and trained as a sub-unit in Australia before deploying to Vietnam, but being assembled in country in response to the particular security requirements of the ATF. They were able to come together as an effective fighting force thanks to the professionalism of the soldiers and in particular the Non-Commissioned Officer who led them, Corporal James Bertram Riddle…..“The action for which the 2nd D&E Platoon should particularly be noted for was the successful ambush they executed together with 2 Troop, B Squadron, 3rd Cavalry Regiment, in May 1969 at Thua Tich. This was a ferocious battle that involved the engaged troops taking on a much larger enemy force beyond artillery support and through many heroic individual and collective efforts were able to soundly defeat the enemy without loss. Their success was a tribute to their professionalism and the outstanding leadership and courage of Corporal Riddle whose personal actions ensured the survival of many members of the Platoon who would otherwise surely have been killed.”
 “I am delighted to advise these proud veterans that their role in the war will be forever enshrined and acknowledged in the Official History of the Vietnam War which is soon to be published. I was privileged to have been able to meet with them personally and thank them for their service to the country and the Australian Army. They served and performed in the finest traditions of the Australian Defence Force and they will have an honoured place in its history. As part of my responsibility for education and training in the ADF I intend to see that our future generations of Army leaders will have the opportunity to not only be aware of this legacy but to have the opportunity to learn from it.”


Note that Kelly says.  “I am delighted to advise these proud veterans that their role in the war will be forever enshrined and acknowledged in the Official History of the Vietnam War which is soon to be published”

That is a load of codswallop, whilst the battle of Thua Tich is well documented it is doubted that there will be acknowledgment of a 2nd D&E Platoon in the Official History of the Vietnam War. It is believed The Australian War Memorial has an entirely different view of the matter.

It is also interesting to note that Tate initially intimated to all, that he was at the battle of Thua Tich and “doctored” numerous photographs acquired from the Australian War Memorial that put him at the scene. In fact he was not there.

Tate bases his demand for a Parliamentary enquiry into conspiracy and corruption in the ADF and numerous Government Departments on his theory that a unit was illegally raised in Vietnam and then all details of the unit and the people who served in it, were corruptly expunged during or after the war, and that over the last forty years many ex senior Army Officers and Government Departments have participated in an ongoing conspiracy.

Tate is a natural fool, and his stupidity is well understood, however how Members of Parliament and ex Senior Army Officers could bring themselves to support Tate in writing beggars belief.

Below is Tate’s email of 30 December 2010 declaring to the world that he is calling for a Parliamentary enquiry and in the document he accuses many Government Departments of an ongoing conspiracy.


Tate’s Demand for Parliamentary Enquiry

   Original Message --------
Subject:  Call for a Parliamentary Enquiry into Corrupt Conduct by Australian Military
Date:  Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:52:34 -0800 (PST)
From:  Donald Tate <warvet_69@yahoo.com>
To:   
CC: 

Please feel free to forward this on:

Veterans, relatives, friends, and acquaintances...........

You would be aware that for the best part of six years now, I have been attacked on the most personal basis by various cowards and fools. Most often, this was done through various web sites by 'men' using pseudonyms to hide behind.

In the first instance, the attacks were designed to white ant our attempts to validate the existence and activities of the 2nd D&E Platoon from Vietnam in 1969. During that process, because of the refusal of those senior officers involved to speak publicly, it was necessary to raise the matter of those contentions which occurred in the field on May 30th, 1969- widely regarded as 'atrocities' by investigators like Ted Colmer, a former federal police officer.

But those personal attacks failed- the 2nd D&E Platoon was formally recognised by the Australian government on May 29th 2008, after a 38-year battle.

In doing so, the Hon Dr Mike Kelly MP concurred with the findings of Colonel Bill Houston's Army History Unit (which had judiciously examined all the evidence placed before it) and not only officially declared that the platoon existed, but stated it "would be forever enshrined in the histories of the war."

My enemies were livid.

The Australian War Memorial simply ignored the government, and in a particular letter distributed by a paedophile, one of its Directors attacked the value of my films which I had donated to that institution in the nation's interest.

So when my memoir, "The War Within" was published by Murdoch Books (who had called for validating documentation on every controversial aspect before publication) those cowardly elements within the veteran community began a new assault. The charade was over- the imminent publication of "The War Within" was going to force the government's hand.

But using the Cavalry website "SITREP" and off-shore web sites like Australian Veteran Matters (AVM) gutless 'men' simply amplified their attacks. Time and time again, I was slandered, vilified, and pesecuted.

Despite the fact that I had been one of the small percentage of men who were actually physically wounded in action as an infantryman in an ambush (as opposed to falling over logs, etc etc) all aspects of my war service were trashed. And for a man who had volunteered for the infantry, and volunteered to go to Vietnam as a reinforcement (the most difficult way to serve, not having trained with a unit beforehand) and then be hospitalised for years afterwards, the attacks were galling, at best.

But always, I answered my critics, provided validating documentation or supporting comments from those I'd served alongside. It was never enough. They simply changed tack- to my personal life, career etc. They believed they had licence to say whatever they wanted, attempt to embarrass me however they could, and damage my credibility wherever and whenever they could.

Suffice to say, none of those critics were ever man enough to come out into the open and confront me personally as I spoke at more than 140 libraries across Australia- save for one ex-cav fool in Payneham who beat a hasty retreat when he tried.

Those attacks were orchestrated by a known paedophile from Rockhampton- ('Spartakus') whose website attracted like-minded clientele.

Other cowards like the Barry Hollitts and Alan Prices and Bomber Gibsons of the world had great fun,

But if they anticipated I would crumble like so many others have, run and cower before that onslaught like some of my 'mates' did, they were wrong.

Not only did I answer them, I always hit back. Often, twice as hard.

Nevertheless, enormous damage was done to my family and me by these former war veterans, so-called men of honour.

As a consequence of those atttacks, I can now advise that I have taken the following actions:

        - police action against one of my detractors which resulted in the Court declaring that person to be insane

        - legal action via a solicitor against a stupid nurse- Fiona Collishaw who published derogatory comments (and hopefully, against 'Fergus' and 'Shadow')

        - police action against Alan Price, President of 4RAR (QLD) for alleged offences under the Telecommunications Act...civil action will follow

        - police action against Frank Grady (initially stalled, but a complaint now lodged with highest authorities in NSW Police Service as to why it stalled)

        - other actions against particular individuals is pending (look out 'Ruger 357'; 'Kenneth Taylor'; 'Bomber' Bob Gibson, our ASIO spy and hero of Coral; etc etc)

        - unfortunately, time, and an incompetent Victorian Police force, saved Pete Edwards'- that cringing, gutless ex-cav member from Victoria.

As well, be advised that ...........

By December 31st this year, every significant federal politician in Australia will have received a document of some 25 pages with 29 attachments containing pertinent evidence requesting a Parliamentary Enquiry or a Royal Commission into every aspect of the 2nd D&E Platoon matter. (See attached)

In particular, I have asked that the following matters be addressed:

* how a platoon could be created without Cabinet approval when one Minister has declared it couldn't be done legally

* why the service histories of the initial officer of that platoon, and all who served in it, could be doctored to show we served elsewhere at that time

* why it was disbanded so hastily and the service histories of those who served in it, corrupted

* what transpired on May 29th 1969 that resulted in a deliberate cover-up that has lasted for forty years, and which senior officers werte directly involved

* the role of the Australian War Memorial in the matter, including its inability to locate evidence or persons of significance involved

* were official after-action battle accounts written in a self-serving manner by the officer involved

* how two 'gallantry' medals could be awarded to two officers, but Cpl Jim Riddle not rate a mention

* how all documentation relating to the 'Pound Enquiry' has mysteriously disappeared

* the symbiotic relationship between various persons from the Australian War Memorial and Tennant/Buick etc

* the accessing of personal information from National Archives by some, while that of maggots like Tennant are protected

* the formation of various web sites designed to silence critics of the military 'establishment' by personal vilification, including how they are funded, and who contributes to them and why the Federal Police have failed to act on various complaints made (especially noting the role of ex-military officers in that organisation)

* the failure by DVA and the VVCS (and the relevant Minister, past and present) in respect of their duty of care obligations to its clientele

* the bureaucratic failure to secure permanent residency to James Riddle which would have enabled him to receive the TPI pension

* the promise of gallantry medals to James Riddle which never eventuated

And then some.

What's more, in January, every significant media commentator will receive exactly the same documents, and be advised that the politiciand had received it earlier.

No.....I won't be cowered by gutless maggots. My day is coming.
Have a great New Year, all

Don Tate



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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday05January2011 »

Has anyone been able to obtain a copy of this mammoth legal and analytical literary submission, under the hand of the author, Donald Tate, Esq??

Should make interesting reading, and I would hope that his submission meets proper and sound arguments, supported by footnotes and references and evidence in supporting documents.



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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday04January2011 »

I reckon the reason he was not considered for promotion was because he "volunteered" once again.  Poor Donny boy
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« Reply #16 on: Monday03January2011 »

This clown can't understand that he, and a number of others, were supernumeries to D& E Pl. The posted strength fluctuated according to the needs of the Bn's who required additional manning when numbers were down.

It's not hard to understand, but then again he had a very limited knowledge of Infantry matters. From my info, he was not to be considered for promotion courses.
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday02January2011 »

Don for the sake of every one, go and get help old son.  You are becoming more and more delusional, and I am fearful that you are the reason that people ask me if I have had any bad effects from serving in Vietnam.  The General Population are starting to believe that all Vietnam Veterans were affected in some way with the spraying of chemicals over the jungles. 
I think; some where, some how, some one, has read some of your delusional  rambling or attended one of you Love in Sessions at a Library some where. and come away with the assumption that all Vietnam Veterans have been affected in some way by the actions of Operation Ranch Hand.
Don old fruit it is time to get help. Go and see a good psychiatrist, and get back onto your medication.  You realy do need help and there are those out there who will help you. Please go and see them, before your illness reaches the stage of self harm. There is no shame in seeking assistance and recognising that you have a major psychotic problem.
Regards, Ken.T.
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« Reply #14 on: Friday31December2010 »

Don "Quixote" Tate, the fools fool, is tilting at windmills and determined to "prove" that he is right and everyone else is wrong.  Tate has killed a lot of trees by mailing out his manifesto to sate his "conspiracy theory" addled brain to show, that in his opinion, the Army and most who served were corrupt and dishonest and that the corruption has been aided and abetted by a whole lot of allied Government Agencies of all political persuasions.

I can hear office shredders buzzing away all over Australia, after politicians have scratched their heads and wonder what the hell is this all about.

If you want to point a finger at who is responsible for Tate’s stupidity, look towards a NSW Politician named Jenny George, an ex Army Legal Corps Major and current Parliamentary Secretary for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry named Mike Kelly  an ex Army Brigadier and the infamous Mad Galahs.

In publicising his manifesto, Tate accuses all of the following of being active in a giant conspiracy:

The Australian Army in Vietnam
An incompetent Victoria Police Force
Federal Police and the ex military officers therein
Australian War Memorial
National Archives of Australia
Department of Veterans Affairs   
Vietnam Veterans Counseling Service
Various past and present Federal Ministers for Veterans Affairs
Department of Immigration

I wonder if all of those departments have regular meetings to plan for the next strategic move in their insidious conspiracy against Citizen Tate.

Sure, let's have a Parliamentary enquiry or a Royal Commission to clean out the corruption that according to Tate runs rampant in our society

The man is an imbecilic nuisance and his stupid manifesto will be binned without pomp or ceremony

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« Reply #13 on: Friday31December2010 »

This is the bit that gets me............

"But always, I answered my critics, provided validating documentation or supporting comments from those I'd served alongside."

Now can anyone, and I mean can anyone, remember Tate having answered a simple question? Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #12 on: Friday31December2010 »

What a sick sick maggot do we have here.  I would suggest he could have saved a lot of trees as I am sure most media outlets and Politicians will bin their copy of his report. What a complete moron.  But, then again he did write a comicial book.
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« Reply #11 on: Friday31December2010 »

Tate lobbies unwilling and disinterested politicians for a Royal Commission into the Australian Military. You have a snow flakes chance in hell Tate. Canberra knows exactly what a fool, liar, cheat and charlatan you are.



Most recent ramblings from demented criminal Tate. Just the laugh you needed for the New Year.

From: ********
To: Austvetmatters
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 2:18 PM
Subject: TATE AGAIN! Call for a Parliamentary Enquiry into Corrupt Conduct by Australian Military

Tate is at it yet again - see below. But you have most likely received a copy of this already. Perhaps it might be time to consider what action, if any, can be taken against this first class wanker. Perhaps a precis summing up Tate would be handy to send to any media and/or politician who shows ANY interest. But then again he has bombarded these people who are, no doubt, awake to Tate's machinations and would ignore him.   He yet again raises his usual dogma. Would take many pages to refute Tate's diabtribe but a couple of comments would suffice.

. Ted Colmer has denied Tate's claims

. 2nd D&E Pl has never existed. Whilst Tate has managed to dupe Kelly over its existence, the War Memorial refused to recognise the pl ever existed.

. Yet again with tiresome regularity that he declares that he was wounded in Vietnam. So were many others Tate but they don't go on and on about it.

. Of course Tate accuses those who do not agree with him of being "paedophiles". Come on Tate mention their names and then see where that gets you. Not likely as he is a    coward. His own action in dropping his tweeds in front of children rates no mention.

. Pity he omits charges that he has faced including one of assault for which he was convicted. The details of his "court actions" including results would be interesting if indeed this idiot has launched such actions.

His photo might be a useful addition on your site.

Of course his latest episode of internet love, abandoning his family  and lost investments again confirms his obvious character flaws. The question of income from his book which would be insignificant as few have been sold, plus investments, although a failure, and his receipt of a TPI benefit plus a car which he uses to gain income seems to indicate some element of fraudulent conduct with DVA.  This poor fellow obviously needs psychiatric care immediately.


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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Call for a Parliamentary Enquiry into Corrupt Conduct by Australian Military
Date:  Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:52:34 -0800 (PST)
From:  Donald Tate <warvet_69@yahoo.com>
To:   
CC: 

Please feel free to forward this on:

Veterans, relatives, friends, and acquaintances...........

You would be aware that for the best part of six years now, I have been attacked on the most personal basis by various cowards and fools. Most often, this was done through various web sites by 'men' using pseudonyms to hide behind.

In the first instance, the attacks were designed to whiteant our attempts to validate the existence and activities of the 2nd D&E Platoon from Vietnam in 1969. During that process, because of the refusal of those senior officers involved to speak publicly, it was necessary to raise the matter of those contentions which occurred in the field on May 30th, 1969- widely regarded as 'atrocities' by investigators like Ted Colmer, a former federal police officer.

But those personal attacks failed- the 2nd D&E Platoon was formally recognised by the Australian government on May 29th 2008, after a 38-year battle.

In doing so, the Hon Dr Mike Kelly MP concurred with the findings of Colonel Bill Houston's Army History Unit (which had judiciously examined all the evidence placed before it) and not only officially declared that the platoon existed, but stated it "would be forever enshrined in the histories of the war."

My enemies were livid.

The Australian War Memorial simply ignored the government, and in a particular letter distributed by a paedophile, one of its Directors attacked the value of my films which I had donated to that institution in the nation's interest.

So when my memoir, "The War Within" was published by Murdoch Books (who had called for validating documentation on every controversial aspect before publication) those cowardly elements within the veteran community began a new assault. The charade was over- the imminent publication of "The War Within" was going to force the government's hand.

But using the Cavalry website "SITREP" and off-shore web sites like Australian Veteran Matters (AVM) gutless 'men' simply amplified their attacks. Time and time again, I was slandered, vilified, and pesecuted.

Despite the fact that I had been one of the small percentage of men who were actually physically wounded in action as an infantryman in an ambush (as opposed to falling over logs, etc etc) all aspects of my war service were trashed. And for a man who had volunteered for the infantry, and volunteered to go to Vietnam as a reinforcement (the most difficult way to serve, not having trained with a unit beforehand) and then be hospitalised for years afterwards, the attacks were galling, at best.

But always, I answered my critics, provided validating documentation or supporting comments from those I'd served alongside. It was never enough. They simply changed tack- to my personal life, career etc. They believed they had licence to say whatever they wanted, attempt to embarrass me however they could, and damage my credibility wherever and whenever they could.

Suffice to say, none of those critics were ever man enough to come out into the open and confront me personally as I spoke at more than 140 libraries across Australia- save for one ex-cav fool in Payneham who beat a hasty retreat when he tried.

Those attacks were orchestrated by a known paedophile from Rockhampton- ('Spartakus') whose website attracted like-minded clientele.

Other cowards like the Barry Hollitts and Alan Prices and Bomber Gibsons of the world had great fun,

But if they anticipated I would crumble like so many others have, run and cower before that onslaught like some of my 'mates' did, they were wrong.

Not only did I answer them, I always hit back. Often, twice as hard.

Nevertheless, enormous damage was done to my family and me by these former war veterans, so-called men of honour.

As a consequence of those atttacks, I can now advise that I have taken the following actions:

        - police action against one of my detractors which resulted in the Court declaring that person to be insane

        - legal action via a solicitor against a stupid nurse- Fiona Collishaw who published derogatory comments (and hopefully, against 'Fergus' and 'Shadow')

        - police action against Alan Price, President of 4RAR (QLD) for alleged offences under the Telecommunications Act...civil action will follow

        - police action against Frank Grady (initially stalled, but a complaint now lodged with highest authorities in NSW Police Service as to why it stalled)

        - other actions against particular individuals is pending (look out 'Ruger 357'; 'Kenneth Taylor'; 'Bomber' Bob Gibson, our ASIO spy and hero of Coral; etc etc)

        - unfortunately, time, and an incompetent Victorian Police force, saved Pete Edwards'- that cringing, gutless ex-cav member from Victoria.

As well, be advised that ...........

By December 31st this year, every significant federal politician in Australia will have received a document of some 25 pages with 29 attachments containing pertinent evidence requesting a Parliamentary Enquiry or a Royal Commission into every aspect of the 2nd D&E Platoon matter. (See attached)

In particular, I have asked that the following matters be addressed:

* how a platoon could be created without Cabinet approval when one Minister has declared it couldn't be done legally

* why the service histories of the initial officer of that platoon, and all who served in it, could be doctored to show we served elsewhere at that time

* why it was disbanded so hastily and the service histories of those who served in it, corrupted

* what transpired on May 29th 1969 that resulted in a deliberate cover-up that has lasted for forty years, and which senior officers werte directly involved

* the role of the Australian War Memorial in the matter, including its inability to locate evidence or persons of significance involved

* were official after-action battle accounts written in a self-serving manner by the officer involved

* how two 'gallantry' medals could be awarded to two officers, but Cpl Jim Riddle not rate a mention

* how all documentation relating to the 'Pound Enquiry' has mysteriously disappeared

* the symbiotic relationship between various persons from the Australian War Memorial and Tennant/Buick etc

* the accessing of personal information from National Archives by some, while that of maggots like Tennant are protected

* the formation of various web sites designed to silence critics of the military 'establishment' by personal vilification, including how they are funded, and who contributes to them and why the Federal Police have failed to act on various complaints made (especially noting the role of ex-military officers in that organisation)

* the failure by DVA and the VVCS (and the relevant Minister, past and present) in respect of their duty of care obligations to its clientele

* the bureaucratic failure to secure permanent residency to James Riddle which would have enabled him to receive the TPI pension

* the promise of gallantry medals to James Riddle which never eventuated

And then some.

What's more, in January, every significant media commentator will receive exactly the same documents, and be advised that the politiciand had received it earlier.

No.....I won't be cowered by gutless maggots. My day is coming.
Have a great New Year, all

Don Tate
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday30December2010 »

I have no idea of his investments, but the mail order bride is true to the best of my ability and knowledge. A lot in Brisbane who served with him knew of it and they all pissed themselves laughing at his antics.

His wife must be a saint to take him back after that episode, then again she may have believed "PTSD caused it", which he doesn't believe in until it suits him. It suited him then.

From my reading of his statements in various media outlets, he is one very sick puppy!
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Subject: TATE'S BIOTA PHARMACEUTICAL HOLDINGS
 
DEAR AVM  TRUST ME THIS IS A TRUE STORY, SO WATCH OUT BECAUSE TATE WOULD BE DESPERATE TO SUE ANYONE!
 
SEE PAGE TWO, CHAIRMANS ADDRESS, PARA:.4 & 5.
 
Watch out for this swine Tate, with no pun intended, because the company he has already invested (ALL) of his financial liquidity in, sometime between 2008-2009 is Biota Holdings Limited, Australia (ASX) when this company was reeking big profits amidst the swine flue pandemic.
 
My understanding from a well informed friend, currently still OS, is that the snake mortgaged all financial assets from his family home; obsessed with greed, and being the compulsive punter that he is, invested all those monetary assets acquired from his family home; also collected revenue from his book sales, and deposited the money directly into this pharmaceutical research company, which would have had a current share value when purchased, about $2.50, now value around 0.53 cents - year ending 2010.  Being the humanitarian, and real goodfella that Tate is, he invested all of this money, including that of his good wife into this company, hoping to help save the world???  In reality Tate was hoping that the swine flu virus, would become a world wide  PANDEMIC inflicting millions with this dreadful influenza; continuing unabated, until a specialised antiserum was discovered (BIOTA) and his portfolio (share capital in the company would make him a wealthy man?).
 
THIS WAS THE BIGGEST GAMBLE OF HIS LIFE AND FAILED TO MATERIALIZE THE WEALTH EXPECTED.
 
WHAT AN ARSE HOLE TATE IS!!
 
PS:  If this company recovers, you know where his assets are located.

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday26December2010 »

Well said Fergus, It is a sorry state of affairs.
 I believe my information is true and Tate is nothing more than the biggest arsehole who ever donned the uniform. I was told by former 9RAR members of his tour that, in their thinking, Tate was lucky to come home in the condition he did. I won't add to that.

I believe in karma, what goes around, comes around, and generally bites someone on the arse. It  has bitten.

I'm going to Brissie again in a few weeks and have a beer with some veterans. This may be my last post. From his former members of his unit's opinions, he was never wanted or needed. He was a problem waiting to happen and it did! Their words, not mine.
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday26December2010 »

I don’t know whether this latest story about Tate is true. The accusations are personal and hurtful.  Now Tate may understand how he has hurt many members of the ADF with his personal and hurtful allegations about them being corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, paedophiles, homosexuals, drug dealers and murderers.

The Mad Galahs and at least two retired very senior Army Officers chose to stand up with Tate. Their actions more than anything else, spurred Tate on to continue his vendetta against the ADF and earn the displeasure of most decent Veterans.

Maligned Veterans Australia wide are searching for information to expose Tate as the arrogant fool that he is.

Tate, and all those who aided abetted and spurred him on will be the authors of his demise, not those who have chosen to defend their honour against his  accusations.  Tate chose to accuse just about anyone who opposed him of being  all the names listed in the first paragraph, now he is getting his own back, the difference being that Tate's accusations are proven to be false and those against Tate are most likely true.

Aye

Fergus
 
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday26December2010 »

If this is at all true - what a lovely Christmas present.  I really feel for his poor wife.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday26December2010 »

I must say, I am totally shocked that the Tater Boy would run out on his wife and kids after all she did for him. The woman stuck by him through thick and thin so he tells us all, whilst he was recovering from being shot in the back by some untrained noggy.  In a body cast for so long and this woman stood by her man, and this is how he repays her! Does a scram with some hot ass from the states who was that desperate for a man she travels half way around the world in belief that the Tater Boy is a good catch. How ever when she met him face to face she did a double take and took off.
Tater Boy was ready to dump this woman who nursed him back to his health, as well as bearing his kids.  Then she took him back for some unknown reason after his attempt at infidelity.
Tater Boy I hope you are ashamed of your self.
Tater Boy if this is true, and you did these things your not fit to wear the mantle of being a R.A.R. Man.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday25December2010 »

The former members of 4 and 9 RAR have no time for this little duck!
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday25December2010 »

Isn't amazing what some trips over to Brissie can reveal, especially when you have a beer with the right people!

Choke Tate!

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday25December2010 »

Well, Well, Well!!!!

If this is the truth, he's even worse than I thought he was.

What a really NICE human being this man is. (The emphasis is on the ironic obviously)

Silly bugger is totally delusional.

Love to see him refute it!!!

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday25December2010 »

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Very appreciative to Australian Veteran’s Matters. Apparently a really good
forum to expose the thug, bully, stand-over and loser president of his own fan
club.. Don Tate. I have been reading this forum for quite some time paying
particular attention to all entries made by this liar and public nuisance.
 
From reading Tate’s comments in this forum I came across a section where Tate bags
a fellow veteran for unfortunately attempting suicide, of which Tate relished in.
Now to some home truths, the thug seems to have forgotten his big weekend in
Brisbane some years back where he flew to Brisbane to meet his secret internet
lover from the U.S.A. with whom he was going to have new life, everything was going to be sweet and rosy.

It didn’t take her long to wake up to this clown so she got on the next plane back to the US.

 Which left Tate in a position where the only thing he owned was his imagination, his money was gone, as he had cleaned out the bank accounts and left his wife penniless, she didn’t have enough money to buy a carton of milk, and in a position where she had to borrow money from others to feed herself and the kids. What a great husband and father this bastard is!
 
Now to the ‘BIG WEEKEND’, following the departure of his new found “love of his life” back to where she come from, he had nothing! He had left his wife and kids for his “dream girl” and after she bolted he realised the only place left to go after this internet flop was back home to his shack at Albion Park Rail.

He had nothing – no money, no roof over his head, no money to eat.


As a result of this huge failure, all the bridges were burnt, he decided that he was a failure and decided upon himself to start a mini-marathon series of suicide attempts of his own.
 
Attempt 1: Where he jumped in front of a taxi.. Behold! The taxi driver applied
the brakes. Attempt failed.
 
Attempt 2: Where he jumped in front of a bus. Behold! The bus driver did the
same thing and applied the brakes. Attempt failed.
 
Attempt 3: Where he attempted to jump from a bridge (it wasn’t far from the Storey Bridge from memory) . How this attempt failed I have no idea. Seems like a simple enough project to me. Attempt failed. The Police got him afterwards though
 
Attempt 4: Tate decided to overdose on medication (Valium) whilst booked into a motel.
But Alas! Tate had time to ring someone who managed to arrive at the motel before the tabs worked and he departed this earth. Attempt failed.

Now to make sure he could muster up all the sympathy needed  and to get some sympathy from his recently separated wife, and trying to find some where to live, his family’s money was gone, he had spent it ,  he contacted television station WIN TV ( a Wollongong TV station)  to let them know that a local school teacher (Tate) from  Wollongong  had been knifed in Brisbane. This was a complete lie to cover up his true actions and intentions. The wounds were self inflicted!

 But it worked on the family, none the less. His original intentions failed, that was shacking up with the US mail order bride as soon as he could. I believe she had a lot of money.

So I can only wonder as to how his wife felt and why in the hell she took him back. His PTSD was the excuse, sorry, but I wasn’t thinking properly! Oh, yes you were, you deserted your wife and kids for your internet lover! All his plans failed! He had no option but to go back to his wife and kids and continue to make their life hell!  I truly feel sorry for them, they would have been better off with him gone.

So Daddy’s back home! And “I promise to never to play with the computer again.”
 
Now to the heavy weight champ of the shopping centre, Tate after being banned from his local shopping centre (Stocklands Shellharbour) is now forced to travel afar to do his shopping. So beware, shopping centres, at any time Tate might leap out of a jar of IXL jam to proclaim to the world that life just isn’t fair!

Before he belts the first bloke on crutches or some other poor bastard, just be aware that he only preys on those who he considers are vulnerable!
 
If Military Medals we’re being handed out for thugs, bullies, cowards, frauds and wannabes this coward would have a wardrobe full of them.
 

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