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Timor Veteran and professional Soldier Sasha Uzunov and highly respected War historian and author Paul Ham are clear. Australian Service members during the Vietnam War acted honourably. 

It is clear from the recollections of Vietnam Veterans themselves and historians and the media that there was no systematic, ongoing and deliberate commission of War crimes by the Australian Military during the Vietnam War, or any other short term War crimes. This is fact, this is truth and this is not thousands and thousands of Vietnam Veterans and others suffering from denial and this is not a case of all these thousands of people together being engaged in a covert and ongoing cover up and distortion of our Military history.

We were not perfect, we made mistakes and terrible things happen in War which don't happen in Peace. However the Australian Military in Vietnam was NOT engaged in War Crimes. War is a dirty, filthy, rotten stinking thing. It is not a clean cut video parlour game where nobody really gets hurt and one is never covered with the blood, grime and guts of War.

However, Tate and his cronies specifically state that Australian Vietnam Veterans engaged in War Crimes, and worse that those crimes were covered up then and remain covered up now. What treachery and money grabbing nonsense that is. What a way to try and make a name for yourself. What a way to try and lift your mediocre service to the levels of being elite Troops.

Tate and his cronies will go down in Australian Veteran history as leeches who sullied the name of all the good men and women who served in Vietnam. They will go down as parasites who would do and say anything to be War heroes and to make money.

Uzunov, now a journalist, had this to say today.


ONLINE OPINION - Australia's e-journal of social and political debate
www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=8805
 

Vietnam nightmare ends with newsmans death

By Sasha Uzunov http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/author.asp?id=5654 - Friday, 24 April 2009   
 

Legendary newsman John Sorell, aged 72, has died. Sorell made his name with the infamous and inaccurate Vietnam war crime story in 1968. It was a story that was to unfairly plague and stigmatise all of Australias Vietnam War veterans for decades.
 
When Mark Dodd, a reporter with The Australian newspaper, alleged on September 2, 2008 that Australian troops in Afghanistan in April of that same year were detaining Taliban suspects in dog pens, which was both insensitive to Islam and in contravention of the Geneva Convention, it sent shivers down the spine of Vietnam Veterans, who recalled Sorell?s Viet Cong Water torture story.
 
The Chief of the Australian Defence Force, Air Chief Marshall Angus Houston, testifying to the Senate on October 22, 2008, said the Dodd story was wrong:

I am able to advise that the Inquiry found that the available evidence did not support the allegation that the enclosures used by the ADF to house detainees on 29-30 April 2008 were dog pens.
 
This appears to be a colloquial term that was used by only a few individuals interviewed in the initial inquiry and is not representative of the actual function of the enclosures. The inquiry found the expedient enclosures had not previously been used to house dogs.
 

Sorell, a Walkely Award winning journalist with the now defunct Melbourne Herald newspaper, went on to become the hugely successful Director of News at television station GTV 9 Melbourne for 28 years before retiring in 2003.
 
In October 1966 he was in Vietnam reporting on the war. Sorell, then with the Herald, together with two other members of the Australian press, were outside a tent at Nui Dat, the Australian Armys base when they saw a young female Viet Cong prisoner dragged in for interrogation.
 
An Army Warrant Officer, Ken Borland, who was not authorised to conduct interrogations, was seen carrying a jerry can of water into the tent. All three newsmen, at no stage ever entered inside nor witnessed what transpired.
 
Borland poured no more than a cup of water into the mouth of the prisoner in order to get her to talk. His superiors when alerted put a halt to proceedings. So what began as harassment of a prisoner later developed into a war crime. She was later handed over to the South Vietnamese.
 
Sorell sat on the story for nearly two years, claiming censorship had stopped him running the story at the time, a claim strongly denied by the Army.
Paul Ham, in his brilliant book on Vietnam, Vietnam: The Australian War and also in The Weekend Australia, wrote: http://www.viet-studies.info/losing_it_in_nam.htm
 

Eighteen months later, in March 1968, an American journalist Martin Russ revealed in his book Happy Hunting Ground that Australian soldiers had water tortured a Vietnamese civilian: his only source was a conversation with two Australian journalists, one of whom was Sorell
 
The water torture case became part of the popular mythology that Australian troops were routinely committing atrocities.
 

Russ later disowned his story: I didnt see the Aussies use torture. The incident with the girl I wrote about was hearsay.
 
As Ham points out: The episode supplied an atrocity when the media was particularly receptive to one, and equipped anti-war groups with a new weapon.
 
The unfortunate consequence of the Sorell story was that Australian soldiers were unfairly painted as savages involved in an immoral war. But the inaccurate water torture story is the only cited example of a blemish on an otherwise clean conduct record of those Australians who all served, suffered or died fighting in the Vietnam War (1962-72). This Anzac Day we need to remember this.
 

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About the Author
 
Sasha Uzunov is a freelance photo journalist, blogger, and budding film maker whose mission is to return Australia's national defence/ security debate to its rightful owner, the taxpayer. He also likes paparazzi photography! He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Journalism from The Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology in 1991. He served as a professional soldier in the Australian Army from 1995 to 2002, and completed two tours of duty in East Timor. As a journalist he has worked in the Balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan. His blog is at Team Uzunov. http://teamuzunovmedia.blogspot.com/




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